Aaron Cain

The vision behind DU has changed conciderately, Probably from a visionairy point of view to a stakeholders, screw it we want return on investment, point of view. Does that mean you will get the DU you hoped for with all the talks JC had and all the ideas we saw in the past. Nope, best leave fast if thats what you hope for. Will we ever see the civilization build by players? no idea but the chance we saw that was better the first week in beta as it is now.

you can laugh but probably if they kept true to their word DU would not feel this empty. it is also practical not to fly for a long time to other planets still i dont expect them to be placed closer together. Also practical to delete schematics, or to make resurection hubs also in transporter hubs so you can practically move between territories. But in the end almost all the things proposed in the forum have never seen the light.

Why does killing features and reducing server constrains count up to a higher monthly cost? That would be the same as reducing cola in a bottle to 60% with a price gain of 30%. Please give a more elaborate calculation of necessity of price gain, and please dont call cost reductions technical issues.

I have to admit i laughed very hard when reading this. Now just go search the kickstarter info and all the info from alpha and you will see the current version of DU is already a downgraded version of the promise made. Any additional downscaling would be to pull the plug, but since they still hold two offices in not the most cheap locations and have a full staff to think about stuf as mining for 400L per hour is best for DU I would not worry to much, all the latest changes were to cut costs for servers, however it is called, added more monthly pay per person, so the future is bright. except not for the features in DU. The only people who will like these changes are those who exploided to the max and were never handled. At launch we are all to get 3 alts per character, probably that is the next thing killed. Organizational owned Territories was the latest although its not called that way, a million tax a week is effectively killing all small organizational claims. Downsizing is well underway, do not be mistaken.

Best to not invest any time or quanta in Any mining unit and just start grabing rocks. The only reason these automatons are there is to show how lazy people really are. 50L thats 2.5 stones, 30 seconds work. 120 L is 6 stones, still under a minute work. If my rl boss payed me for mining with autominers then i probably picked up a few rocks and told him i did 24Hr of autominer work and just fiddle the rest of the day, hell yeah, i would pick up for an hour and fiddle the rest of the month!

Who ever got the idea that mining units are efficient with the result after a day while i can do the same in about 20/30 minutes stone grabbing. The previous mining had a gigantic load of ore per Hour with respect to the mining units. That combined with the tax per hex i get the suspicion there are ulteriour motives behind this whole new development, there is no way this is something thought up for the benefit of All players. Only the previous exploiders and mass organizations will benefit, all others will feel the pain. Why is it so hard to live up to kickstarter promisses? The way you break promisses weekly with such easy you need to sit in the naughty corner almost permanent!

Indeed, if NQ does a wipe they can probably cancel the game, most veterans that now have worked their ass of with the idea everything stays will likely move on. And to be honest with the payment plan, the features scrapped, the stuf that stayed in i dont see busloads of starters waiting for the gates to be opened. We lost more features then we even got at kickstarter at the moment and most is not even working like planetary conquest. I am having a hard time to fit this progress and the future into the kickstarter ideal

Not, this just shows how broken this idea is, just go pickup surface ore yourself the ores lying around are 20 L per piece and about 10 to 20 second work to grab

Well NQ was warned and they never acted on exploids so the time people needed to take action themselves and thus they just used the keys themselves. BTW, i tried to give my keys to friends but with one look at the forum and develepment path they all declined. It is very simple, everything you can now do with alts will never be gone, and if you do not pay their accounts later it doesnt matter as their HQ and other stuf remains eternal as stated by NQ in the little letters. So again all the exploids from the past nobody listened to or acted on will in the end probably kill this game. But apparently nobody in NQ cared and by replacing JC and killing all the kickstarter ideas They think they can save DU. Have done some nice mining on alioth according to the way promoted in the kickstarter lately?

Yhm, uptill now exploids are either ignored or uhm not dealt with unless its a player they really dont like i guess.

And indeed, please info on HQ tiles and please introduce before we need taxes as most here probably invested all quanta into schematics or other stuff

parts of my base are underground, anything i need to do?

Then this is fixed in short. with these fun taxes and people losing their stuff most people who were once told they would never loose their stuff after its build unless warfare happened will probably leave, or just camp at the sanctuary for ever. in both cases, gameplay dies. Fun to see that those who exploided for billions will again get the better in this next downgrade

Thanks for the fix yeah those we have lost probably wont come back but sadly we loose more every update

Fixed it for you. For most veterans the game has not gotten any better, features are scrapped and continue to be scrapped. promises are broken and exploids ignored. Indeed there is also good stuff coming in and it depends on when you entered the stage of DU to actually see the game going up Or down. For those with billions from exploids that were never taken away this patch gives them only even more power over those who play it fair as they will never have to worry about taxes and can just wait for nice spots to come free

seen it more than once, its not the large slaps of text but the little stuff told in remarks. Maybe you shouldlook again too, but thats a little kindergarden way of discussing. Feel free to defend cost reductions brought as features.

What you are missing is that this is the way DU is being developed, got an issue, fix it? Noo limit something else, ban something, kill a feature. Every. Single. Time. Again. So now we get automining and thats good, what do we loose? Building underground or partly, our owned territories, terraforming grand style, Quanta and independance as apparently NQ ownes all the land and we pay taxes to them, Mining, Mining. So this was called a mix between Minecraft and Eve, I never saw it that way. Then industry got nuked, PvP is mildly said not what is expected and now mining is killed. What is left? Fly around in pewpew with no skills and drop Bots with no skills to not craft but sell ore to market bot with no skills, so you can buy overrated shizzles with no skill and then try to Magicvoxel your stuff, or just buy a NQ designed ship which all are reduced in length as larger stuff eats to much data. All is being done to reduce dataflow and by that cashflow, in short there is a cashflow problem that hinders gamedevelopment that induces killing of features. I propose a rename, CU Cheapass Universe. CU Later

no quote needed, nothing is the same from when we entered beta, and thats an alpha feature

just saw demeter blog. Not going to invite Any friends. the small lines told between the text just tells a clear story. Iceberg..Titanic......Im not the band

Mustr say i love the small line: "What happens when you loose your territory, bad stuff hapens to your constructs. You mean they are up for grabs. yep" In short loose your territory, loose your constructs on it. Anyone can steel them. And also the tax % will not be named not to shock us? lol Think this will be the end soon.

So in short, everyone who promoted DU to their friends is fucked if they want to join the program

Again my question, i asked my friends to join the first time you said this program was coming so How can i still get rewards for them joining?

Hahaha, you got a point there

Thank you for the clear answer to my Question, it is much appreciated. Greetings Aaron

Yeah its a good thing those tanks Still cannot be linked so we only need to fuel one "tank entity"