Satanah

Nice post GK ?

Ok so here goes.
 
NQ - we made a voxel game, look you can make movies ships, or all kinds of ships, that are all pretty, and awesome. But making the right angles, and curves welll....HAHA that stupid hard as hell, go learn 100 hours of voxel mancy, to learn how to make a right angle curve in a half circle, without looking like LUMPY CRAP... oh and.
 
PRETTY SHIPS ARE NICE...BUT ARE AS FUNCTIONAL AS A FLYING ROCK...HAHAHA.
 
 ME and everyone else -
 
I want a hauling ship that looks like the  Millennium Falcon ----YEP IF THE FALCON HAD 100 AIR BREAKS, 100 ALIRONS, 100 RETRO ROCKETS, 100 Vertical Thrusters, 50 LARGE fuel tanks, 40 LARGE ENGINS, 10 XL SPACE ENGINS... a cockpit just big enough to fit you in it barely.... BECASUE THE WHOLE SHIP IS FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH FREAKING CRAP....so when hauling 6-10 containers of stuff, YOU DO NOT SLAP INTO THE GROUND AND EXPLODE...or BLOW UP IN ATOMOS DURING A REENTRY.... and WARP.....HAHAHAHAHA better warp empty, and sell your load wherever you are...casue the CELLS will cost you as much as you will make selling the ore, or parts you hauling to market.... 1 medium ship with 6 containers.....90-100 cells, FULL CONTAINERS...200+ cells.....for 1 trip...WTF?
 
warp cell production....200 million for the schematics.....to make 10 cells per hour.....so you can afford  2 warps...to a mining location and back for 300+ warp cells....30 hours of waiting to make that many cells...  better go mine mega nodes of gold, to recoup the loss, and make a profit. 
 
so making a movie ship, or a pretty ship is great...but functions like a flying TURD....see UEF store...
 
so if you want function, well just eat get ready to fly a ship that is nothing but elements...made into structure, and use as little as possible....or none at all.....to keep weight down....
 
I have SEEN WITH MY OWN EYES a ships DECK WAS NOTHING BUT AIR BREAKS.......retrorockets, just to support 10 Large containers full of ore....becasue otherwise IT WILL NOT STOP OR LAND WITHOUT EXPLODING....
 
I TESTED THIS KNOWING BETTER - droped the 4.xx million for hauler on UEF.  could not even break atmos empty....just becasue i had 3 sticks of gum and a yoyo in my nanopack. TOO HEAVY...LMAO.
 
SO I MODIFIED IT...from 2 large engines and a medium. to 4 LARGE engines  2 Large stabilizers, 4 medium ailerons.  STILL COULD NOT BREAK ATOMOS..... so i started digging.
 
SO MANY UNEEDED LAYERS OF METAL VOXELS making it HEAVY AS HECK.... some places the voxels were 4 layers deep... 
 
I hacked the bottom entry off,  moved storage to top, took out passenger seats,  hacked the back half off.... used 2 fuel tanks for space engines Large, 2 atmos tanks M, went to 4 LARGE engins.... took out all the extra layers of uneeded voxels...and flew off into space.. loaded it...and could not stop..and BLEW UP hitting the ground...becasue i couldnt fit the 100 airbrakes needed to stop....
 
so i flipped the core to face to the top, fippled the gyro, started to fix the voxels...and well its a nice shell to make a purdy SLAVE 1 boba fett ship...that will fly...but serves no purpose...other than looking nice....
 
 
My M core Hauler...has some shape to it...but mostly to hide the 100 air breaks L, the 100 retros to go into it, the 12 L engines, 8 M engines, the 50 Ailerons. the 4 Lage ATMOS tanks, the 8 Medium space tanks to fuel all the Hovers and V-thrusters, and still need more breaks...retros...and figureing out where to put warpcore...and  remaining 3 L containers..and not have it look like flying  Square plate.. right now IT LOOKS LIKE A 3D version of the ATARI SHIP from - Space invaders... but i might have to mod it into a just the FLYING PLATE OF ELEMENTS so it just FUCNTIONS and flys...
 
 
SO NQ IN END - BUFF FREAKING PARTS...SO WE CAN MAKE PRETTY AND FUNCTIONAL SHIPS...... not just one or the other....cause i want a cool looking ship that can HAUL or PVP....not a Pretty ship, or a flying plate that hauls, or a BOX that fights....
 
OH AND FIX ANTI GRAVITY...that is just stupid.... also add ION engines or whatever you want to call them.. that can do both SPACE and ATMOS... like the USS enterprise....that had a crew of like 5000 people...and carried away ships, and MILLIONS of tons of cargo....on 2 engines.. not 200 slapped to a plate, with 500 wings, oh and 1000 air breaks, and 1000 retros, and 1000 hovers, and 1000 thruster, and 1000 adjustors, and 1000 fuel tanks...with a AGG the size of the empire state building, that need 1000 pads....and a forever warm up time...and if you change one tiny thing....the whole system resets...and you rage smash your keyboard.
 
i know its all COOL IN GAME PHYSICS OR WHATEVER WHATEVER.....but if i can warp to a planet standing on a plate in space, jump off fall into the planet from space, and not burn up in atmos, or die on impact...but watch my ship explode cause it cant slow down..cause it 100 breaks shy of stopping right... FORK YOUR DUMB PHYSICS...

Look at my example above (3192l ore out of a 2624l scan, talent at lvl 3), how can those numbers relate? Imho this talent doesn't give you extra ore, it simply let you mine faster.

-5% time to reach max sphere size skill. - Bigger sphere size will scoop more. That means Way Many More Times to scoop per hour, its like eating faster :)))

+5% max sphere size = Bigger spoon. 

TLDR: Overall....The plate is the same. You eat faster and with a bigger spoon

Believe it or not idc.
 
My father worked at fermilab for nearly 30 years as a physicist. During that time he used to invite over other physicists, astrophysicists, and other bright people over to dinner and then have debates. Ive had the pleasure of meeting and listening to top physicicts and a few nobel prize winning physicists as well. My dad also has a pretty good sized physics library I used to read for fun back in the day. Based on those debates I have my own ideas on how it all works.
 
Theories are driven on what math can reliably prove and even if its wrong and the math fits its the best we have to go on. You have your view I have mine. All there is to it. We are still infants as a species looking at the crib and thinking we know everything. Just look how far we have come and how our perception has changed over time in just the last 100 years alone since the dawn of the 20th century. This is still the stone age of physics as the universe is constantly throwing us curve balls when we think or claim to know something. Todays nobel prize winners are our best guess yet until someone comes along and throws a new wrench into the equation.
 
Regardless a free energy tech in DU should be bound to limits. The 4kmph speed is slow as dirt and the reason people build pedistals to save time on 1hr round trips going from 1km up to however high they built their high altitude platforms. The pedistals exist to transfer items or ore from the ground to the pedistal to ma pedistal and using rez pads as teleporters to streamline the filling of the containers saving time and effort since you cant lift the weight without an insane amount of parts creep and not enough space to lift what you can with anti gravity drives.
 
The issue is there is no teleporters to get to the space station without space elevators or anti grav.
 
Becuase you cant teleport reliably without exploiting rez pads or do anything with surigates it creates the need for a system of platforms and containers to be either every -2kn up the chain and rezzing your way up each level or to just go antigrav because it is free.
 
Because it is free it is intentionally made practically unusable since it does not matter if the ship is empty or filled up with 1mt of volume it does not matter.
 
Because it does not matter it is made to be slow and not conform to the rules or parts bloat any other system in the game has to abide by to make it more efficient to lift weight or to speed up its use.
 
I dont care to debate the theoretical nature of the existance of this technology or how it applies to real life people want to get into. I really dont. but its a broken system like everything else in the game. 4kmph does not need to be the punishing factor of having it if you can get more than a handful of pulsars vs being able to buy and put on more to again add speed of ascent even if it does not calculate weight which it should to make necessary the need to add more pulsars and also open up the market since you only need a few and without destructive elements for PvE there is nothing to really drive people to buy pulsars or the gravity drive unless they are building a ship for a pedistal. Otherwise you can just fly out of orbit without it or get to the ground to out of oribit. It only exists to destroy the need for weight in general.

I think I might just come back to DU when there is a fully functioning civilization in place. Because building one sure as hell sounds a lot like a job now and not much like a game I’d choose to pay to play. 
 
Mine more so you can buy less. Sell to those who control the markets for a pittance. Then Rely on bots to sell magical slave potions at exorbitant prices to power the Ars Industria controlled by the mega corps. 

sound like the plot to the movie Brazil... or just real life in a few years’ time. And we all know how much fun that’ll be. 
 
jeezus the Bladerunner phrase “More real than real” just got really real. 

For now, more than a space or flight game is a mining simulator. Without even the proper tools (drills, vehicles, automated unit, etc.) to make it funny.  
 
Let NQ first introduce some new stuff,  improve the general visual performance and game stability.

Agreed.  We would burn too many potential players.  Its better to wait until the game completes it alpha phase (currently called beta)

It ain't ready for that. It'd get review bombed so hard that records would be broken.