Moosegun

Sadly the simple part of it seems buggy (adding perms via right click etc) but if you work in the RDMS menu and use those setting they are really solid, got some brilliant perms setting sorted for our freelance players (who might only have access to a certain container etc)

I would disagree, this is actually one of the most comprehensive RDMS systems ever in a video game. The ability to add granular rights to even specific object within a ship is incredible BUT the UI is not the best and some of the functionality is bugged. If you work with the core tools (the RDMS settings NOT the premade options) it is extremely powerful. Once i got my head around it and set up a good set of core perms it was quite easy to use. To the OP - my suggestion is get of sanc moon and see the universe, go claim something on Alioth where you can mine anything unclaimed. The terri unit costs 200k, hit me up in game and I will sponsor you a terri.

The big thing here is that you cant actually WIN this game or compare your progress to anyone elses anyway. New players wont be 'behind' because it is not a competition, they are just joining the civilisation. New players didnt moan for 17 years when they joined Eve that they were behind or WoW or pretty much any other MMO. We are building a civilisation here, what I think NQ have done is put in a nice environment for us to get on a build it.

Upgraded my 16 to 32 last week, made a massive difference to the overall stability of my machine whilst playing.

Still complaining because you flew 600SU away and didnt have a plan for elements?

It is VERY simple to set up a short run circuit to make most of the T1/2 items using just a simple input / output and picking the items by hand. If someone has big industry they have all the parts, you just need to set up a couple of bins and one of each assembler can make short runs of anything.

You can have a friend, he does industry, you do building or transport or security or mining or......... that is all we do, everyone does what they are good at. It is called teamwork. People in my org dont have to use my industry, they just ask me for stuff or use org stuff, or buy there own off the market with their earnings.

1 @ 53, 13 @ 60, 30 @ 70........ I can go on If you want a screen take them with you or dont choose to live somewhere 600 su from civilisation, cant believe you are moaning because you cant buy AG / screen on other planets 2 weeks into the start of the game...... If you cant hack living on other planets, dont move out there.# You want to buy stuff, give me a shopping list, will get your order together

Why do you want end game items at this stage? The market is filling up more and more everyday, I know i am one of the people filling them up. That ecu comment shows just how much you know, first up it costs 53k now (not 200k) and there are more than 250 on the market - nice research dude you really have you finger on the pulse. What about the remote controllers you were crying about noone selling a few days ago, look that are nearly 200 on the market. That is how it works, as the industry evolves the market will expand.

We have plenty of players in our org who havent touched industry at all, nor mined. Or do you want to be able to play completely solo and not use industry?

To be honest anyone who is trying to do everything themselves is going to find themselves left behind anyway. Not the best strategy for progression.

I would like to understand why the economy is 'crap' bit of an arbitrary statement to make without any qualification. As someone who has sold on the market since the first day of headstart I am quite impressed with the way it is coming along.

The issue with any fake load testing is that it will never replicate everything players will do, it appear there are certain services within the game that are struggling a lot more than others. For example anything that appear to be sent via HTTP for industry / container management etc is struggling to cope but the flying part of the game is holding up ok. It is only with actual live players will you find out these processes and be able to fix them. In my honest opinion they should go back to Alpha testing schedule (4 days open, 3 days closed) to allow them more time to make fixes.

Do buy from them, buy from me!!

I am glad you brought your own brand of insight to a conversation never before discussed on this forum. Your unique take on the situation was indeed enlightening...........

Not angry, just tired of people posting complete bullshit as if it is fact.

No it doesnt mean that it is on one server, why do you post up this COMPLETE LIE, is means it is on a cloud of servers across the world which are knitted together into a single shard. "This is basic stuff" Ironic coming from someone talking complete bullshit with clearly no actual idea how the tech works. NQ have been honest that they needed to make money to beef up the server meshing (I can explain what that means if you like). I have no issues with people being pissed off with NQ and the game but when people with zero understanding start talking like they are an authority, jog on.

To be honest most players wont 'catch up', all vets have a massive head start in terms of experience. It is not just about 'huge' orgs and people getting rich on T5 ore early game. Our org, which was basically 3 people, has well over a billion in assets in 7 locations, WITHOUT selling a single piece of ore, because we know the game. If they wiped now, we would be ahead of the pack within a day. Not being big headed, we just started playing the game three years ago, I started my plan for this launch about then.

My sources were only backing up the opinion I originally held, again nice deflection, nice effort at trying to discredit. Can see we are at an impasse, not sure this is worth my time now.

Generally when two people have a difference of opinion, sources are used to corroborate those opinions, NO research I have done backs up anything you say. Your inability to back up these statements you have made with any reference suggests to me that you are just making things up. As do your lame attempts at deflection.

So no source then...... you were just making it up

You say one thing, internet say another, who to believe? Got source?

Hawk Industries Base in Alioth - CREDIT Poljack Water cooled industry XS Core Hauler JD03 Pitbull

I will 100% agree this game was undercooked when it went to beta, even the devs kinds of said it themselves, they need the more money for further developments and server infrastructure. One thing I want to make clear though, as someone who played the game extensively over three years, the majority of the issues we are seeing have only occured to this extent since open beta went live, the pre launch week was pretty bloody great, as was midweek for the first week or so. It seems the playerbase has hit critical mass though and then the current architecture just falls over. This is not a bold statement to say that when DU is playing well (such as in headstart week) it is the ONLY game I want to play at the moment out of the 600+ I own. Infact it is one of my favourite games OF ALL TIME, it is just shame that you have never got to try it properly, even more concerning that you might never get to.

Anyone else want to start a 'no shit Sherlock' thread, which adds pretty much nothing to the conversation?