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Automation is good too some point but too much will make thing so easy and unfun. I know someone only want to join big battle, massive war but tired of grinding or waiting your sla... i mean worker grinding the materrial enough and then keep waiting your ship slowly build. So automation will solve it, you dont have to think about anything and join the fun part only. But this is DU, MMORPG so you have to think about roleplay and war like real life. If you push war too much or long war it will make your resource run out very fast, and make you have to push your slave er i mean worker to work harder, and then they will breakout and stop working and leaving your org to death end by run out of resource, it is fun to see the fallen of a big Org because of that reason. So in the end automation will make you dont need to think about that problem because machine dont have ' morale ' . But that will decrease the tense, fun of the game, and NQ of course will not accept so do a lot of guy. Remember when you start something you have to caculate the cost and maintain for it or else you doom =)). It make us got sense of proud and know to value thing even the most common resource. Also it give the new guy job in building or mining operation. So the player base will keep increase, Org will seem have outpost near Ark ship to always recruit new slave ops is worker for them when new guy is log in. So the new guy not only player but become the back bone of the economy and also the game. Also the time they spend when in mining or building operation will give them some experience or even more information about the game, just like a tutorial but not npc give them quest but their boss, a player, will do it. It will be win - win if we dont have automation ... too much. What is more fun than see your slave gather resource/ building construct for you ? Feel like a true boss. And we arent be friend with nano mining on our hand entire game, NQ confirm that there will be more mining device or building device but will be release after the game open as expansion ( free ) . No automation it like rock age, so we need only enough automation to the point that newbie have job to do. this isnt real life so much, where player can join and leave if they want. Real life you cant left ( unless you go to heaven realm ) so automation dont have too much impact on economy, the people dont have job still suffer to live day by day and cant do a thing about it. So stop complaining why no automation when DU is high tech, because player base of course, real life dont need player base so much( I mean not everyone can leave your country easy right ? but of course the country still consider about their population but they can stop them with their force, but how DU do it when it just a game on internet ? ) So i'm hoping that my thought will enough, if not please say it here too, I want to read everyone thought ( comment ) in free time to relax, yeb argument is good to improve each other.

Nah not exchange, we still can be "Han Solo" but it will be very very very very very very x ??? difficult life and boring, no ?

Yeah and new player join the game will dying too. They put limit not all because economy but because the new guy will join so they will have job to do. Not all thing manual labor where you create element with machine, it just mining and building and maintain a ship ( if it need ) . "Re:build the civilization together", they got intention when said that, you cant one man rebuild the civilization. In the end you see newbie (like me) will need a job to keep them stay at the game while they learrning about how to play game, so building and mining for hired will be best for them to get experience and some money to start :).

Space trucker need big, cheap ship and if it can one man ship is ok.

But ... but we got star gate isnt it ? I thought the only way to go to another star system is go though the Star Gate which is very expensive according to NQ, it suppose only big organization can get it but still hard for them to build on. So i think we dont have much called the 2 side of universe and will long distance make hard to contact even 10 year later. But i like the idea you will die at far far away from the spawn and then some day, another people will find your ship which abandon, lonely, float in the space and history about you with that ship, hmm yeah it make me feel excited. Like find a ship which make in 2019 when you are in 2027 =]]. So we may got the Star war scenario but i dont think DU will big or information will be so late that will take 4 day to a week to get it.

Dont think Lua script is mighty, if it can they can create a Battle ship with one crew, NQ have already confirm it, automatic but it have it limit not to break the game. And about the mining sure it is. And also the video which @Felonu give me here also saying about it and transcript in the description also link to this saying no AUTOMATION. And what i read about for 1 year, seem like automation will best use for def , but that still unknow until alpha/beta stage but they have confirm that way.

I would love to got a ship which small, fast so it hard to get hit by enemy. Dont worry about fire power it will be good git to hit and run.

Umu i think you mean said ? But on the forum it say there also not automate, please read the link i give you . https://board.dualthegame.com/index.php/topic/10382-devblog-scanning-mining/ It claim by NQ official forum account so will it true =.=, you can see there is no word talk about automate but do you think automated will balace for the beginer ? who only have one job when they in the game after the release where all Organization all control properly ? And then sorry for saying you are solo and my rudeness for wonder about your gold pledge.

thank you but sadly it dont have sub and i'm bad at hearing english, even with people who their native language is english.

Now, about mining: it will be done via your Nanoformer. The harder the material and the larger the volume collected, the longer it will take. We have chosen an energy-based model where each material is capable of absorbing a certain level of energy before being “mined”. So, you will be able to upgrade your Nanoformer energy throughput to improve your mining as well as various mining skills. For more advanced mining, and possibly some rare materials, dedicated tools will enter the scene, but this might not be available at release, but rather in a future expansion. We are considering the possibility of Mining Units inside your constructs, but this will be in an expansion after release and it will require some careful balancing to make sure standard mining is still an option, in particular for beginners. Well they say all will be done by digging by your 'hand', also in future expansion they will add mining unit to your 'construct' not drone lel, but it will be consider balance to make new player got work to do so say good bye to your dream about 'mining station' or 'mining drone' ?

It not official, why you say so, i think it is the detail web we have =]]. And also what you show me, yeah new element and spcial tool but you still have to dig on your own, NO AUTOMATION. cheer.

hmm

IT also depend on what "grinding" meaning for you. Not all grinding is 'look at a rock and mine it' no, there are lot of way to obtain resource, money, thing not only mine, all so you want to get fame and you do thing to get it isnt is grinding ? That called Organization or called team working, if you work with team everything sure fun, 'grinding' with other people at a same place, haa i will be pretty feel happy that not only me so lonely down there, in deep of the mine. Only solo people will thinking 'grinding' is boring as suck ( i do solo in some game may called 'MMO' like MapleStory, shit grindding a lone in a map make me feel so sad.). And all you do to get one common goal, though the sorrow and happy you will not find it boring. And you say why it not automate mining, yeb that is why i know you are 'solo' player who dont want to rely on other but on yourself. As i say NQ say that they dont want automate miner because it make the new player have no job because the people like you who only want to do all thing yourself, i bet if you can you will want to control a battle ship alone not with crew. And also this is not survival game, IT IS MMO, SANDBOX. And the goal of the game is? You create it, no goal which NQ give you, you create the final goal yourself. They just have sologan that ' REBUILD CIVILIZATION TOGETHER' not one man army =]]. So at the final i still surprise you got gold pledge.

You have a gold pledge but not even know it ? Hmm it surprise me a bit. https://dualuniverse.gamepedia.com/Mining 'Novaquark has declared that it will never be possible to automate or expedite the mining process. This decision is purely for the sake of game balance, because extra tools, such as robots, mining ships, and automated drilling could easily replace players, making it difficult for new players to get into the game world'

I would like to stop the idea you can configuration the so called 'implant' in your head because we after saw some Vid about Lua script, yeb you dont have to physic interact with console but still have to use your mind to do it. So I dont think the idea 'hack' your own brain or script your implant in your head will be real. It would like we will use some device to hack the console or connect to it by interact with a device using for hacking. About the hide or change your name, i would suggest a skill but need a device to active it and will have cooldown, no? It all about camoflag, hide your name thought other eye or change it, illusion it a bit. But after all we still have to wait to know. What kind of hacking will NQ give us

after all PvE is boring as suck, it just like some kind of grinding again. Solo ppl usually choose PvE because of course they are solo, not some kind of solo in anime where you can vs entire country. In DU they are just money bag can move for the pirate. Of course not all Solo is bad but it is rarely. Yeah we should force them social and work in Org

How will you hack the detection zone when you are not connect to it or it siimply a scan device ? Dont tell me magic hacking for distance, it is Holyweed thing.

nah that system still overpower and boring, why ? lets me say, the only thing you will do to farm resource day and night to upgrade it and because it cost so much so it will hard and balance right ? Nah , it will make the game boring as suck when all you have to do is grinding, Dev say they want to give us Emergent game play not grinding simulation game play. Why i say it is grinding game play? Because all you do is protect your central hub and grinding resource, nothing else. And protect one hub is easy than protect every tile I corret ? And from that it will make you so overpower by cower in your fortress. No emergent here. Also the feeling of choose which position in side the tile to place your hub, tatic land, and build nice protect to your hub. This feeling cant have when you only got a central hub where you dont have to think about anything than protect your only hub and grinding. Also it is overpower, because the only thing you can do to claim a land which central range have cover is attacking the central hub which of course all their mighty will gather there. Instead the more they expand the thiner their military force can cover, they all have to do is stick inside their fortress. So that is why I only agree with one part of his idea is we should have a central claim hub but not expand by upgrade but have small claim hub connect to it to working normal or I say maintain. I hope to hear your thought about it @GunDeva and also @Iskiox

Well you will see at the begining of the game, you will feel the peace everywhere, everyone help each other to rebuild CIVILIZATION and you found it might be boring as suck. But dont worry when people dont have a common enemy ( starve, poor, ...) and get wealth then it is the end of the stage called begining and war sure broke out, first will small conflict over rare resource deposit but it sure will get big when the resource is hard to find and people are getting greed in power and resource once they got enough man power and resource to expand their military. And then betrayer, civil war, ... will sure to happend. Yeah event with large wil lhappen soon but just not at the begining where people have to find resource day and night.

What make you think it is my 'expensive ship' :). Ah i will say the truth i hopeful to see the 'Emergent' game play, i never try it before so i will try it in DU

Your addition idea is good it make me want to add it to somepoint. My idea which change alittle from your idea that a central claim hub with small hub which only can claim surround area of central and so on. But to prevent a Org occupied a planet with only one central hub i suggest that the cost to maintain will add maintain cost for small claim hub will increase when more small claim connect to central until it is an enourmous number. example your first small claim hub will increase the maintain cost like 10, and next one will increase 13 , and next one will increase 16 , and next one will increase 21, and next will increase 26, and so on ... to some extent the cost to maintain will be rediculous make them to build another expensive central hub to expand. It just like a city with domain around under it control, the more land it control the more cost it is. So it will create for us a lot city when each central claim hub is a fortress . . p.s: it is maintain cost = origin + 10 + 13 + 16 + 21 + 26 + ...

first : about xray or similiar, it not give you complete image of ppl inventory, just a part or a bit curruption make you hard to see the item icon. Here we will got skill, it will make your inventory more curruption image make it harder to recognize your item/resource/stuff image and with skill you may unlock camoflag for it mean fake item image. I know it may be use to abuse but so after consider cons and pros i still suggest this. Everything can abuse you know ? So it just aboit cons and pros when add it. But i hopeful to see another change to my idea to make it more balance. second : about weapon detector i think it is abuse and i dont know how it will work ?, shape of item then judge it hmm nah. you know weapon are always in riduculous shape ? The only common in them is metal, sometime it not made from metal but then here is xray or similar come in handy. So xray or similar and metal detector will work together and help each other not alone using.

metal detector or some thing like xray can see thought your inventory and bring back image but it not complete/perfect and be corruption as i explain is better xD.

what ATV mean, please englighten me . Yeah it give the game more more fun, challenge , turn the unknow into know . So in the end, we should ONLY can hack which human create not the AI :)) or implant in your head

Yeah i hope to, cant wait to see how sound will be use inside the game. It very important like Festival, Music Concern, Propaganda of course