Lethys

it's not NQs job to provide factions. It's up to the players to come up with that and it's up to the players to band together to hunt and kill pirates or to make some pocket of the pvp zone relatively safe - see EVE, works there since 2004. Don't see a reason it wouldn't work here if ppl actually started working together

a french fleet....so you'r ships only go in reverse? gl out there o7

sure but this wouldn't really change anything - alts ftw besides: everyone NEEDS some kind of safezone where their shit is safe. otherwise ppl will not bother with pvp at all - reducing gameplay, oppertunity, market value and everything. also, not being able to use the market is kinda silly (again: alts are a thing) because then you just exclude more ppl from participating in a meaningful way. The consequences and risk being a pirate ARE there: you are already KOS anywhere for certain orgs and they hunt you. punishing PVP players because they actually do what DU wants them to do (pvp in the pvp zone) is not really the way to go. instead people should finally realize that entering the pvp zone automatically means they consent to PVP and that they might lose their ship.

Accepted. But I will not and cannot apologize for anything I said because what you depicted there in that thread is still gruesom, despicable and boyond all my humanism. I will never Accept, tolerate nor apologize for anything which goes against the very true nature of what I feel is right . If that entails taking some warning point or even a ban, so be it

EZ: allow for self destruction with a timer to kill your own ship (and only your ship) to deny pirates the loot. If you want to actually harm other ships then use what is in the game already - weapons All we will get from you now in response will be again "mimimimimimimimimimimimimi I'm right, pirates are bad and should face RL violence"

Wow.... Just wow mate. Ppl like you should seek professional help and not play video games when you can't distinguish between RL and VL. Everything I said went over your head and you either don't understand english that well or you're just really dense or stupid. Considering your statement it's pretty telling of your delusion and mental issues you're having when you don't even recognize what my problem with that statement even is Everything you said doesn't apply to the actual conversation here because the point clearly went over your head and you have no clue what was actually said No use in talking to you either way because you have No intention of even discussing the points i made

yes, because that would be FAIR and your idea is just broken and unfair - that's why you like it more

you DO realize, that this is a game right? You DO realize that being a pvper/liking PVP in a GAME is DIFFERENT from liking violence in RL right? You DO realize that wishing someone violence in RL because of something they do in a GAME is pretty rough shit, amoral and makes you a VERY shitty person, right? you're really a disgusting, immoral, shitty and disturbing person when you really believe such things and I do not want such ppl in a game. Please consider your life if you can't differentiate between a game and RL. Time to see a psychiatrist and treat your delusion also, your T key is broken. EDIT: still no counter-arguments to any of my points

EZ: get a mate with a gun on another ship. fly to your enemies. tank those two ships for good. let your mate shoot you and activate the device to suicide kill everyone. you can already arm your ships (THAT would be balance - as said in the other crappy idea thread, but you obviously can't answer there too). If you would have friends flying with you or if you would ARM your ships then pirates would also be at risk....in a more balanced way then this idea would suggest

No, you don't actually reply. You just keep rambling on about how "my idea is great!" and "you are all wrong, I know better because I can't POSSIBLY be wrong!" Case in point - earlier I posted this: suicide bombers ftw - so ppl will just use this to kill entire fleets of ships with suicide squads in large ships no it doesn't, it will just be abused to a) kill fleets (that's why it's a REALLY BAD idea) or b) deny pirates (yes this is a perfectly viable and needed playstyle in DU, even if you don't agree with it nor will ever get it) loot and booty which they deserve after their work. it's just an easy cop out for the victim yes, noone wants those but if someone is stupid enough to slowboat through PVP space in an unarmed ship, then it's on them. This is also an oppertunity for GAMEPLAY you know? Don't like to arm your ships? call friends to defend you and fly with you, make yourself a fun evening talking. or hire mercs to do that for you. Such pirate attacks generate CONTENT, but I guess you don't get that sure. arm your ships then with actual balanced weapons and not easy-hurr-durr-IDC weapons which are unbalanced and unfair (NO i don't mean unfair for the attacker because he then dies....I mean because THEY can use that mechanic too then....and will abuse it) Your answer was this: You didn't adress ANY points I made. You just keep going on and on and on and on about how "unfair" this is and about "raping" (whatever THAT has to do here I don't know....) Nothing is wrong there - you CAN arm your ship already! Right NOW, ppl can arm their ships. But this is not what you want right? What you want is a free pass for EVERY UNARMED ship in the pvp zone. You want to have ALL the benefits of mining T4-5 and you want ALL the stuff which happens in PVP space too, without ANY risk of interacting with other ppl whatsoever. Sure those can all be there and hit EVERY ship (even unarmed ones) there - why not. Doesn't change the fact that in the PVP zone there is the possibility of being attacked by pirates. Deal with it. Use this as some means for EMERGENT GAMEPLAY (as I already suggested). PVP in it's current shape is pretty bad - mechanics suck, it's boring and pretty unfun. Your Idea would make this WORSE because of all the points I made earlier (which again, you didn't even acknowledge nor adressed in any way shape or form) There would be a solution to all of this - if you would just think about it for a bit. And if you would just accept, that there MAY BE a risk involved when flying in a PVP zone. But I will let YOU think about such a solution, you desperately need the excercise in critical thinking and thinking about balanced ways of dealing with such player types as you are

nice to see that you don't argue against my counterpoints - I'm glad you finally accept them! This is a game. stop weired RL comparisons. This isn't RL, it's a game where RISK vs. REWARD is a thing. Stop trying to get ALL THE REWARDS for NO RISKS What really amazes me is that you didn't come up with the most obvious, BALANCED proposal to somewhat mitigate this "problem" you see here. There would be a good solution to all of this, but since you ONLY see your side of the story - you actually can't imagine anything else. Because obviously, you're right. And everyone else is just mean

Nice little Q&A and for new players it might be something but for older ones, this is just the same Q&A as we've already seen 4 or 5 times....PR stuff, things about new stuff yadda yadda yadda But some crucial questions weren't answered, like for instance: And especially #2-3 which would have been fitted nicely to the answer you gave to Aaron Cains question about the PVP pillar.... Another missed chance to adress all those long standing open topics - instead it's all PR again.

this tbh cities don't serve any purpose whatsoever with current mechanics. except for RP purposes maybe, but noone needs special "rooms" for anything in the game right now. you don't need gathering halls, tactical command centers or anything alike. nothing a city provides serves any purpose. Same goes for spacestations. All players really need is storage and landing pads. Everything else is completely useless EDIT: oh and besides the technical limitation of the single shard server - I very much doubt that cities will ever work where more than 2000 ppl concurrently do stuff within 1km of each other. lagfest ftw. see market 6

No, pvpers see other opinions. That's what the safezone is there for. If you don't want PvP, Guess what, you don't have to! Your suggestion means an easy and unbalanced way to kill even more ships without ANY means of defending yourself against it.

see, that's the problem. You don't see anything other than your opinion. now you called this "idea" : "Revolutionary Idea for a More Balanced PVP" but you CLEARLY didn't think this through. suicide bombers ftw - so ppl will just use this to kill entire fleets of ships with suicide squads in large ships no it doesn't, it will just be abused to a) kill fleets (that's why it's a REALLY BAD idea) or b) deny pirates (yes this is a perfectly viable and needed playstyle in DU, even if you don't agree with it nor will ever get it) loot and booty which they deserve after their work. it's just an easy cop out for the victim yes, noone wants those but if someone is stupid enough to slowboat through PVP space in an unarmed ship, then it's on them. This is also an oppertunity for GAMEPLAY you know? Don't like to arm your ships? call friends to defend you and fly with you, make yourself a fun evening talking. or hire mercs to do that for you. Such pirate attacks generate CONTENT, but I guess you don't get that sure. arm your ships then with actual balanced weapons and not easy-hurr-durr-IDC weapons which are unbalanced and unfair (NO i don't mean unfair for the attacker because he then dies....I mean because THEY can use that mechanic too then....and will abuse it)

Nah mate, you clearly don't want to see the "other side" so i keep reversing your poorly formulated thoughts and attacks to you

a huge zone with 3 planets and moons is small Oo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooookay

In games, I also like to PVP. But cannot thanks to those weirdos who control areas and keep them and those resources just for themselves in the safezone. those acts are what keepp societies ingame and in real life back. We humans are divided in normal people and in "yesterday" people that are still driven and inspired by building and all such, less developed like normal people. hey, too, are part of us humans, so we accept them among us, but they bring just suffering and pain. There is not much more I need to say about that.

Already? That was fast! Since it's been only 2 years or so, you would have to remind me of the benefits and the system itself. I've forgotten

If it aint launched yet, will it ve wiped ?

You clearly never played uno, nor understand when ppl are mocking you. And clearly, you don't really reflect on what my sentence means. But hey, you do you

Yes, these folks do lots of lobbying. For them, only their own fun matters, at the cost of all others. We call their mentality "Carebear" mentality.

which it isn't because of the safezone

Nice ad hominem attacks there, May you find truly experienced devs for your next game and not those plebs and noobs who can only do windows! Have fun mate

Yeah. Because No risk with all the reward ist what everyone wants.....