JohnnyTazer

I'm just explaining current mechanics to you. Because you post very opinionated things and you dont even know the mechanics of the game you are playing, and you yourself admitted to never being shot at, yet you call for 25% damage reduction. In what world does that make sense? Why would anyone listen to you when you have zero experience? In your delusional state, do you think a dev is gonna read your post and go "wow, this guy is giving valuable feedback even tho he hasn't tested our mechanics, we better listen and reduce damage to and exact percentage he suggests".

Are you aware you can get to any planet, and any ore right now completely side stepping pvp? People have to willingly go into the pvp zone,, which you don't need to. That must have went over your head didnt it?

People have different tastes. Imo if a ship is poorly made with no voxels it should 1 shot. But there are talks of possible shields and power consumption. No word on devs that I know of tho about it. But your post is still pure salt. And apparently you dont know its beta so people pushing these mechanics to the limit actually helps the game so we can see what is not very balanced.

And this has been brought to attention even for pvp types. We dont like borg cube meta either, but we understand we gotta give NQ time. We want long term solutions not band aide fixes.

I've seen people get knocked out in only a few seconds. Look at mike Tyson. People still call it a fight regardless how long it "lasts". Once again, only 5% of pvp been implemented, so too early to tell on a lot of things.

I think he wants to risk it. I feel English is his 2nd language but he is on your point of view for things. That's my guess.

I'm totally fine with safe zones. I could even get behind keeping the current safe zone forever if they removed all tier 3 ore. Reason being they plan for more solar systems. So in grand scheme of things the safe zone will still be relatively small. Sorry you are wrong about my thoughts.

Eve has been around 18 years with this exact scenario you described. What's laughable is you. Your personal ideals on pvp arent the devs. In eve people grind months/years for supers/titans and get ganked moving them through dangerous areas solo. To me it looks like you backed the wrong game. But your attitude is pure dog shit, and I question your IQ. Main reason is because YOU have bias or feelings about how a game should be played and project that in a way you think everyone should feel. I personally hate games like fortnight or MMOs like WoW. But I understand people have different tastes then me. I understand why people play them, and I'm glad those people have those options. People like ME want games like this, even If they arent as popular. I'll say this again. JUST BECAUSE YOU BACKED THE WRONG GAME, DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE FUCKING RIGHT TO COME HERE LIKE AN ENTITLED PIECE OF SHIT DEMANDING CHANGE TO SUIIT ONLY YOUR NEEDS. So please fuck off. And have a good day too.

Its suppose to come, just needs more developing. Devs and JC have said only way to get high end tier ore is in pvp zone. We just gotta patient while they keep going.

Hahahahahahaha. You're an alpha backer, and you didn't hear JC name drop eve on MULTIPLE interviews even as far back as 2+ years ago. He point blank said "EvE was a big inspiration". Why do you think we have DAC? Open market? Time based skills identical to eve? Dude, YOU backed the wrong game. Take the L gracefully. EvE esque games might be a waste to you, but not to those who love them, including NQ who is making DU, a game with a player run universe with emergant gameplay.

OPs post is still stupid. Is posting things as matter of fact when he knows jack shit. Like 75% reduction in damage must happen. Or not shooting if going over 10k is a must. He is making demands like a spoiled kid to a parent, not providing meaningful discussion.

I am in a generous mood though, so I'll take this time to educate you. The only thing we care about is that we can shoot anyone any time outside the safe zone. And that the safe zone remains small and void of high tier ore. Rough estimate would be 10% of whole playable universe. That's it. Every thing else is about balance. But one thing you dont do when balancing is knee jerk over correct like OP is saying. Its terrible for any game. You go a little at a time. If your balancing or nerfing of bad mechanics wasn't enough, you go a little more. Collecting data each time, until you feel it's close to right. Also, its 3 weeks into beta, with 5% of pvp implemented (straight from devs mouth) so with so much to come. We have to wait and see. And there is no reason anyone has to go to pvp zone now. You can literally go to any planet without pvp at all. Hope that helps you.

I dont take it personally. I've got over 10 years in eve, I'll be better off than you that I know for sure. Part of being an adult is to not cry when you lose a game that is competitive.

No it just gets tiring when we have explained this, even over multiple posts. I haven't even pvp'd in beta yet. But I'm not mentally stunted and know how things work, so I don't make stupid posts like yours.

Another idea joins in the discussion.

Hahaha you are right this is one of the worst posts I've seen here lately, and that's saying something. People like this are why devs dont even bother reading their own forums.

This is 100% eve online. It's bad when you arent even surprised by people there anymore. 18 years after release, you will still see an occasional new person get ganked, then go on a rant about how its poor mechanics and ganking is the reason eve is dying. And this may be anecdotal, as I know salt comes from anywhere, but after playing for 10 years of eve, I've been called the N word on more than one occasion in eve. And it was only when I ganked a miner in "High Security" space. Coincidence? You be the judge.

So like, guns can't fire If you going too fast? Or guns can hit if your going over a certain speed?

Problem is this isnt dog fighting WW2 style. It becomes space jousting. And too much of it sounds Terrible as you take your pot shots as you wizz by each other. I'm ok with guns having some decent range, that's why we have radar. But how radar works is more of the problem, and how effective hits can be made, and possible overall ability to kill something super quick. quick kills should happen on poorly made ships, but as to what the answer is idk, I'll wait for more pvp to be developed and then see. This will be an ongoing process even after release.

^^ This right here is what matters. Most of you In here need to shut the fuck up. And stop speaking for the "pvpers" because you don't know shit. It's not even 3 weeks into beta. The "pvpers" want a more balanced system too. Problem is we cant do anything right now, we've already let NQ know. Our job is to BREAK IT when they release stuff in pvp, to show what needs fixed. Showing these OP metas is a good thing. That way we can point It out. But be constructive about it, and dont cry like if it's not fix in 2 days the world is going to end. Fucking bitches i swear.....

One way to curb it a little is do like eve with a sig radius sort of thing. Game recognizes huge cross section, you guns do "crippling blow" and can do up to dbl their intended damage, because they land such perfect hits, that's its actually easy to chew through armor that isnt spaced out.

Its 40% less fuel consumption to my knowledge. What NQ needs to do is put in proper stats, but I suppose they already know that and it will come soon enough.

*cracks knuckles*

I need more pvp experience to form a valid opinion, but I will say with how important radar is, it should be heavily focused on continued balance. Even after release. Even 10 years from now. And even further balanced.

So what happens when you "alt F4 now" your ship keeps going. Forever. Can anyone confirm. I'm fine with it just want to know what to expect if I do log/crash in a moving ship.