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  1. I agree with geronimo553 and find the remarks by the three active users disturbing. There is healthy pondering in geros ideas, and unhealthy, stiff, authoritarian push to conform, accept whatever exists. I wonder, who feeds the ideas that they are willing to bless without question? Novaquark? Gero, of course claimed territories should be safe, and no labels should somehow defeat the purpose of STUs. This whole idea of STU´s is grainy and probably poor as a reason to buy patron. Since I played Minecraft years ago, I always hoped on public servers that the lots would be in the actual game, not isolated or empty. In a few servers they were, but mostly there was a stupid creative world lot. I had one server game like that and I built an elevated golden railroad with pumpkin lights every 10 blocks on the water outside the claimed zone towards the protected town. The server closed and there were thousands of cakes scattered on the railway the last day. I don´t want to bring resources to an area where there is no game as a solution to that the protection isn´t enough against griefing. I envisioned that the gameplay would consist of claiming land in competition and then building inside and there would be several connected or isolated territory claims. A chain of connected territories implies a 3D expansion system in the ground and space. Of course protectionless outside mining and exploration would exist too, but a protected area should not be in a different world, other than where mining and exploration are. Edit 21.3.2019 Gero, since territory units protect your assets, there is no problem with being visible. It helps navigating out from Arcships in search for unclaimed territory. Edit 21.3.2019. Lethys, according of this, griefing is not possible, just killing. RDMS I assume means no interaction with any voxels or objects other than the player ragdoll. STU´s are for Arcship and moons, where is no resources. Normal territory units are meant for unsecure areas and they are more protective than STUs. That would be acceptable. I don´t understand where I can get TUs. Unsecure Areas (UA) Meaning and Everywhere Else: Territories located in Unsecure Areas are called “Normal Territories”. A player can claim a Normal Territory with a Normal Territory Unit. On unclaimed Normal Territories everything is allowed. On claimed Normal Territories offensive actions are possible and everything else is subject to RDMS. Low value to high value resources are available in the ground.
  2. Pros: 1. There is a DAC, which you can gain by mining Quanta, and don´t need real-life money. 2. The game is free to download, including all content. (Isn´t this like Eve was?) 3. The monthly subscription starts from around 13 € 4. There is a free trial period. Cons: 1. Paying for a monthly subscription is a very serious and scary feature which does not work with reasonable money policies, unless it is low enough. It is not like this game is going to rob kids´ money, is it? Don´t focus on the big 60 - 180 € packages alone. Also Novaquark´s single shard server needs there monthly payments more than a single payment. This is me being courageous like the French are. Verdict: I am going to be a player who uses 13 € a month for a short time. Especially when comparing the five alternatives to Dual Universe, I believe I can get a full game experience without going insane over all those offer packages. When the game does not offer anymore new, like a unique and strong atmosphere and creativity and limitless growth, I quit without using anymore money. I have found my moderation. So in 2020 is Awakening and I will be there. 2. I had an opening but it was closed. I was accused by Lethys of necroposting. It is not as if I am a trouble on this forum because this is my fourth message and it had been 1.5 years since the third one. But I am not new to hostile forums and we are going to have trouble. My topic was necessary too, thinking about the subscription issue and that I had decided to pay. This poses a new question about Dual Universe, the fascist forum community. If I break some rules here and you ban me, should I still pay to play Dual Universe? Of course not. I wouldn´t have any user rights. You really need to know this for context, that I am that kind of buyer who is going to pay 13 € for a short while. As a player like this, I do not need a community to be like you, to follow your norms, to be socially acceptable. That does not mean that I am trouble in the forum but that I have freedoms to differ. Do you guys know the story about Star Citizen and other games, where there is a hostile 30´s, 40´s male community on the forum, who pay a lot of money to get back to some childhood ideal of gaming with friends, and who attack violently all others on the forum, who are not conforming to the dream? Do you think that on this forum already? For sure, If you make me feel bad by applying some forum enforcement on me because of necroposting, I will not pay anything for Dual Universe anyway. This con is unresolved. I have copied this in case its removed.
  3. https://board.dualthegame.com/index.php/topic/628-subscription-should-not-be-its-pay-model/ It was said that bounty system would not be added in the official release if the target 720000 wasn´t met. Now it seems that Novaquark is doing a crowdfunding game, and it will keep developing it after the official release. This in an antithesis to having a vision. I believe Novaquark has vision about Dual Universe and it is more interesting than Star Citizen, because it is more on the line of Space Engineers and physical world than role playing EA/Microsoft titles, although much uglier looking. But how can the studio keep developing if they don´t try to release a complete game and make sure that it doesn´t fail before launch? Surely we shouldn´t be held responsible by paying beforehand. I believe that a goal to release a full game doesn´t mean that it isn´t developing anymore, but it forces the studio to make it work. Having a goal of partially completed game by official release is dubious. Paradox games and its DLC´s never work out and there are Steam games like Godus, Stranded Deep, Rising World and Medieval Engineers, which have gotten stuck to the early access stage years ago and won´t develop anymore. Other games will work but they don´t have any vision, like Stellaris which tried to become Master or Orion 2. Should I pay 500 € for a lifetime subscription so that I may get peace of mind from paying to play? A subscription is against my views too. It means that I can´t take a break, play when I feel like and that there is a higher threshold to play the game. I might like to have something better to do, especially if it mean loss of money. Do you really think paying for a game is critical expense in life, especially if its more than regular 60 € titles? Edit 29.7.2017. In order to keep out the "trash" players who never pay anything, you do not need to lock, build walls and avoid free to play. You only need a high gameplay quality, which makes cheating unnecessary. This sort of subscription system means too little players to even afford company operations. Thanks and see you later in the game. Edit: 18.8. Reply to ‎17‎.‎7‎.‎2017 at 7:32 AM, Celestialdeath99: Celestialdeath99: Minecraft´s funding scheme did work for Mojang. But they didn´t run any servers, they let private companies run them. On the other hand Minecraft (Dual Universe is inspired by Minecraft, EVE and Space Engineers) had such an awesome concept, that everybody wanted to buy the 15 € one-time payment and there were hundreds of millions of accounts. Dual Universe may not be that compelling game that it would have such rave support that would pay for the game and justify third-party promoters, license-paying server services etc. Perhaps Novark in France and this board should not base expensive monthly payments on the dream that it is going to be. If Novark doesn´t have any better idea maybe Dual Universe will not be that much greater than EVE either. I am still writing this because I love a game that is inspired by Minecraft, EVE and Space Engineers, which should not be a fringe game community, too few players, barely profitable, slow and limited version updates. Edit 2nd Nov 2018: Pros: 1. There is a DAC, which you can gain by mining Quanta, and don´t need real-life money. 2. The game is free to download, including all content. (Isn´t this like Eve was?) 3. The monthly subscription starts from around 13 € 4. There is a free trial period. Cons: 1. Paying for a monthly subscription is a very serious and scary feature which does not work with reasonable money policies, unless it is low enough. It is not like this game is going to rob kids´ money, is it? Don´t focus on the big 60 - 180 € packages alone. Also Novaquark´s single shard server needs there monthly payments more than a single payment. This is me being courageous like the French are. Verdict: I am going to be a player who uses 13 € a month for a short time. Especially when comparing the five alternatives to Dual Universe, I believe I can get a full game experience without going insane over all those offer packages. When the game does not offer anymore new, like a unique and strong atmosphere and creativity and limitless growth, I quit without using anymore money. I have found my moderation. So in 2020 is Awakening and I will be there.
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