VandelayIndustries

For you and about you are 2 different things. reading comprehension.

same with you, and more people want the nebula removed or at very least altered. Sorry for you to hear this, but the game isnt about you. But keep crying and making up stuff about crashing because you cant "see" which has never been a thing.

Exactly. Someone who didn't play during A1 or A2. Therefor no room to talk, because you are making up stuff that isn't there. Thats the number one thing you hear from new players, is they cant see. So laughable how delusional you are.

Yours does look infinitely better. Id like the stars to be more prominent since that loos like u on a moon so no atmosphere blocking vision. And ya the rocks are the worse thing i probably seen in a game visual wise. The people have spoken NQ, Nebula has got to go.

Then make alioth 0.1 gravity. So they crash less. You keep saying removing the nebula will make people crash. It doesn't. Sounds like you only played during alpha 3 when it went to $60 to get in. I flew every test session during A1 and A2 never wrecked. People wreck from rendering issues, or inexperience, or lack of talents flying heavy cargo. Not because they cant "see something". Those are facts. If you like the nebula because u think it looks good thats opinion and fine whatever. But trying to make shit up to prove your view of aesthetics makes you come off really bad.

I have no problem if there is a toggle option. Same way there should be a toggle option for those ABOMINATION of glow rocks on every surface of the game. the bare minimum would be a toggle option and be ok but NQ doesnt care about their game. Making it look good while also "being good" attracts new customers. Not saying the looks and asthetics are the only thing, but when i backed in alpha 1 i watched all the youtube videos i could and the game looked like a space game, and looked AMAZING to me leaving a planet and flying in space. That can matter to attract new people. Now you need legit gameplay to keep them. But immersion always helps, and i felt more "immersed" during alpha then I do now.

No, my counter is that with the old sky box you could still see. we arent asking for "pitch black". NQ's stance on collisions was "use a radar that is the counter"

wrong it doesn't. You act like the old skybox was pitch black, it was not. Im guessing you didnt play during alpha 1 or 2.

Literally during beta with the nebula, people complained of running into shit and towers on alioth, because their speeds were too fast sometimes to render stuff in time. NQ literally said to use a radar to avoid collisions. So nebula has 0 to do with that. PER NQ.

it doesnt prevent collisions though. I never collided with stuff all through alpha. Thats a cop out. You use your radar when flying at any meaningful speed. So once again you argument is null and void.

well said

And it looks like trash. And that view is held by MANY people. Im also not talking about realism. Im talking about what looks good, and what "feels immersive" and the old sky box looked amazing. As many people here have stated. And the problems of people running into stuff were over stated. Also, if you wanna go that route lets look at what NQ has said about all those COOL SPACE ELEVATORS people would run into. Use a radar NQ said. So use a radar if u are running into a space station. So now that we got that all cleared out, its time for them to remove the nebula.

100% its demeaning. Especially since we are also mainly talking about the old sky box that worked just fine in alpha. Their problems were the other lighting from elements and other things that needed tweaks development. They are deflecting and making it seem like all or nothing. Its quite rude to say because we enjoyed the immersion of the old skybox and not the crappy nebula, that we want some pitch black like turning off your monitor. Honestly their attitude about legitimate feedback of their game is really really shitty. Not to mention, its kind of like a compliment when we say we want the old skybox back. We are saying you guys NAILED it the first time, and only minor tweaks might be needed for the dark areas or tweaks with how element lighting works.

this image was actually taken from your link. Notice all the images of things close by INSIDE the solar system, are very dark. hmmm crazy isnt it?

images from a crazy engineered telescope are not the same as your naked eye on the moon. Oh, you are telling me you arent smart enough to understand the difference between looking at something with the naked eye and thru a telescope? Do you think everyone in DU running around with a telescope.....LOL

Why do you still have the nebula when vast majority say it looks terrible, and is so cartoony. Everyone in alpha loved the old skybox. Should stick with that but then work on your actual lighting problems, not some blanket greenish hue all over my screen.

No one is asking for complete blackness, and your lighting issues existin tandem with the nebula. Have to think of the right way to word it, but basically the old skybox worked just fine and people loved it. So why is he talking about total blackness that's not what people are saying? Their lighting system is still trash with the nebula it just ads a green glow that is stupid. Literally the only old complaint was moons around alioth on the dark side were "really dark" and people crashed...but so what it was easy to not crash once u understood the elevation and payed attention when u fly, And moons suck for everything so not like people were going there in droves, it was just back in early Alpha there was no sanctuary, so EVERY newbie that finally built a ship capable of going to space and warp wasn't in the game....guess where their first destination was? The moon, And many were inexperienced so crashed, not just because they went to the dark side, but didn't use space breaks, flew 8k speed not knowing they couldn't slow down in time, etc So a very small minority complained it was the lightning was to blame, which it wasn't 99% of time. Literally everyone first space flight was to the moon in Alpha, every thing else was 1-4 hours away, so as a newbie moon made logical sense.

Space looking like space. Game use to look so good.

A+ on all your points, The shitty skybox is the easiest thing they can change but knowing NQ i very well doubt it. I cant believe they changed it in alpha. There is no way someone could think the nebula looks good compared to the old skybox they had. As far as civilization building game, ive said this for a long time, its not. There is no civilization when everything is done by yourself. No reason for cities, no reasons to explore, no reasons to take precautions or have risk traveling to an outer ice planet looking for rare ores. Everything is safe, your avatar never dies. All around just terrible. NQ really needs to watch this video. But the only actual hope we have in reality is if NQ loses the rights to DU and another company steps in to develop it and make an actual game. NQ has proved incompetent time and time again. As shown with something as simple as fucking up the skybox.

Exactly. For me it was the first trip to the moon. Then landing and looking out at all the stars and darkness of space. And seeing alioth glowing there. It just had a feel to it that wasn't cartoony at all. It just felt "right".

I also think a lot of people currently playing the game were also not around back during Alpha 2 when we had the old amazing dark skybox and no glow rocks scattered all over the surface. It was one thing that hooked me instantly. The "feel" was just damn good for a sci-fi space game. Like you said, its really such a small change that would have only positive effects for the game, and the immersion. At the very least, put it on the PTSD server so people can see.

The people have spoken, Old sky box must be returned.

Exactly, the speed modification is just the beginning, to get things kickstarted to put some differences between the cores, so you can add more interesting things in later like you described to vary the combat situations, and how and when combat and evasion can happen. etc

You are suppose to haul it in, or set jobs so people can haul in the ore u dont have. Duh

Looks like this might call for a wipe.