Duragon

It always amuses me when adults, males (white males, let’s be honest)  create cute little dramas in teacups. 
 
Never heard of AC or ATOM or Legion until this thread.
 
lots of big talk and macho, pseudo militaristic group names and members spouting strong words when it’s probably double digit active users at best. 
 
also the derogatory nature they have towards those who don’t like fighting in a digital computer game means that IMHO, they deserve zero respect in or out of game. If they call non PvPers carebears, the non-PvPers should just label them what they are: sad, lonely men looking to find some compensation release or satisfaction in a computer game, far away from the emasculating reality in which they apparently live. 

 

i think you should re-think your ragepost. specifically the part that says:
 
 They clearly and specifically stated, in the very announcement you clearly saw and read because you already mentioned that you know they are backtracking a bit on their initial decision:
 
 
So you won't find anyone PvP'ing in stacked ships and if you do, report them and their ship goes poof. I'm willing to bet that if you get your salad tossed by someone using a stacked ship, and you report them, NQ will probably fix your ship for you if you ask nicely. NQ are cool like that. Stop being such a whiner.

Wouldn't it make more sense to play StarCitizen doer Eve then? There the focus is more on PvP and the ships themselves are already finished, you just have to equip them depending on the situation and that's it.

I keep seeing posts. comments, and people inferring that solo playing is unwanted, frowned upon, etc. WHY? I'm retired, I play 12 to 16 hours a day, i love building, i even have a youtube for stuff i build in games. i prefer to do it myself and not have to rely on someone else. It's a survival type game right? so that means ideally that you need to rely on yourself to do things, right? i get the organizations, i understand that. but i want to live by my rules and crash my own ships not have someone else do that and leave me the repair bill, etc. i sell and buy from market a lot as a new solo player, (err um..used too). the game should be for anyone and everyone.

I think there are different types of PvP.
- Fair PvP as a kind of competition
- unfair PvP in the form of ganking (was that translated correctly?)
Legion, but also others, unfortunately don't just shoot at real PvPers or heavily armed serious opponents, but mainly at everything that flies around in their vicinity, even if the miner's ship doesn't have any weapons at all - so it's not a source of danger.
So far, real PvP battles are more likely to be prepared, i.e. bait is used to attract "real" opponents - but only if a whole army is sent as a hidden reserve in case something goes wrong or the opponent is underestimated. 
From their point of view, many want to present it as if it were just a game and fun, but that usually stops when their own goal is not achieved.
I think that if it is supposed to be fun as a game, then it should be fun for all participants and not just one-sided. For me, it's not a fair competition if you shoot unarmed people and then brag about it.  
Conclusion: 
Fair fights among PvP players, very much so, then the construction method, the interaction and the skill should decide.
Fighting against unarmed people just to rob them because they are easy, defenceless victims - sorry, that's toddler level.
Legion and space: Of course space is there for all of us, but it is a PvP zone without rules. (You can also shoot each other, not only the enemy) Current problem: Legion contains almost all PvP players, whereas the mass of DU players are generally peaceful PVE players who just want to build great things.
So question: Do PvE players even need to go through the PvP zone or to the asteroids to do their building - or would other materials suffice? If no PvEer would fly there anymore, the PvP players would get even more bored and maybe go back to Eve online. 
 

Well, I found a lot of DU fun so far, but this post is about the login page.
 
From some of the posts here, I should probably take this login page with a grain of salt, but as far as I'm concerned, having this right there when I log in is way cool. I get to see some of the recent things that happened before I arrived and what I can look forward to now that I'm here. 
 
And on a related note, the tutorial was fantastic! Spent about 20 mins a day on it the past few days and took notes. There seems like there is so much in DU, and I'm excited to start exploring it.