Crandules
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There seem to be an authentication issue with DU at the moment. it is coming up with error 100 and it wont let the password change
When you follow forgotten password link it wont update
are other players experiencing this issue?
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11 hours ago, joaocordeiro said:
There are allot of reasons to do this.
But dont use this topic as a excuse.
There are like 5 ppl replying to you.
1 of them may be considered toxic, the others are just debating the topic.
If you dont like the game cancel the subscription.
Just dont make up excuses.
yes i grant you it is that 1 person that is what prompted that comment in frustration. having said that I feel that as a linux user I have had to justify my choice in OS on this forum when i was simply asking about running the windows client on linux. I didn't expect this to erupt into what it turned into. as mentioned above I need linux for my job and DU is just a game. i am not going to change OS putting my livelihood at risk just to play a game.
and i am not sure who said it but I find it greatly offensive being referred to as a geek. I am not socially inept just because I am using an operating system my job requires of me. to say so is rather childish and that was coming from one of the other people in the 5 you mention to the one who was being toxic.
also please don't for a moment think i need to "make excuses" or in any way have to justify to you why i cancel a subscription. your response implies i need to and that simply isn't the case. even if if i choose to cancel my subscription and leave the game because the name on your avatar, that is my choice and no words you waist commenting that it is an excuse will change the fact that it is the reason. how dare you dictate the circumstances of my departure.
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you guys are a real piece of work. I AM NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD CREATE A LINUX CLIENT. my post was and always has been about running the windows client on linux as has been possible with a large number of other indie titles. I am not asking for them to support it. I honestly dont care if i am the only person in the world who runs linux
additionally if we are going to play the numbers game there are more linux users than the number of people who play this game. and likely ever will play this game. there have been many startups like this and most of them have ended in failure. and with this attitude so will DU
This forum has really turned me off playing this game to be honest. I am going to cancel my subscription as the player base of this game is obviously toxic
I am not interested in hearing any more replies you may as well not bother as i at this point am no longer a player of Dual Universe. i will stick to eve or one of the other countless games that support linux without arguments breaking out. perhaps i will wait for starbase to come out. it is claimed to be compatible with proton.
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1 hour ago, sHuRuLuNi said:
As some have said: ShadowPC.
did you not see where i mentioned that if you sign up today they have stated it will be a full year until your service is commissioned? that is simply ridiculous.
1 hour ago, sHuRuLuNi said:I don't know why this discussion is going on ... I am fairly sure there will NEVER be a Linux Version of DU.
we don't need a linux client. we just need a windows client that can work using proton. even if we have to self support any bugs that arise. that is how other software that has come to linux works. and even if it has bugs i would choose that over having to dual boot any day.
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5 hours ago, blazemonger said:
The new price is €30/month up from €15 .. If you can get a GPU suitable to play DU for 300AUD hen by all means.. go for it..
Any subscription model for a hardware service is lost money that is better put towards hardware. doesn't take much thinking to realize that mate
5 hours ago, blazemonger said:NQ manages to barely stay alive right now just having to deal with Windows. Unless they change their chat engine framework, supporting another OS is simply not going to happen.
ok if thats the case then they must be a sinking ship and it probably best not support them by subscribing to the game.
5 hours ago, blazemonger said:LOL.. Linux accounts for 2.38 of desktop OS installs, and that is probably 70% Ubuntu/Debian, 20-ish % RH and then the rest.. That number has not budged at all after the Valve push.. It's also interesting how ppl keep bringing in Vulkan where that support for that framework has hardly seen any change, most games still are on DX11 today, if not DX9
yeah and in the server space Red hat serves the vast majority so lets stop taking out our bum and rubbishing Linux. going by your posts and i am fairly sure it is your posts in the other threads too that dive this down into a linux verse windows argument. this is irrelevant.
5 hours ago, blazemonger said:Going back to the OP questions, it's just a matter of resources and money. The question comes up every now and then and the arguments are mostly the same every time. But the number simply are not there. I'm pretty sure ore people got impacted by and now can play because of the issues DU has on Shadow than there are potential players on Linux and NQ doe snot have the time or resources to prioritise fixing that issue.
the reality is they should be. Linux users are going to extra expense to play their game and bugs are bugs. they should be fixed if you are going to charge for the service. especially if you blatantly saying that it is not worth investing time in it and in the other breath saying linux users should fork out an additional $50 per month in order to play the game. with that attitude towards potential customers and actual customers i will cancel my subscription to dual universe as it is clear they are to lazy to support and dont want linux users in their player base in any form. that sentiment is clear.
3 hours ago, Cheith said:0.2% - sorry, but the testing alone is not worth it. Should work and do work, as you know, are not exactly the same things. Ubuntu also isn't all of Linux and all Linux clients are not the same. I also have a feeling that the DU client might be a tiny little bit more complex than your average Steam game. Once you get into threading and the like it usually gets harder to move between the platforms as their models are different. If it is a single event queue type game not so much.
3 hours ago, Cheith said:Also, why would developers push Linux over Windows if it gives them what they want? As a game developer why would you care? Indeed as a developer a single platform monopoly makes your life easier. It would be one thing if we have one version of Linux but we don't even have that. So the order goes Win, Mac, and then maybe Linux.
getting tired of non linux users putting this argument forward that the distributions are all different and a client has to be coded for each. the distributions are not that different to make development that hard. the majority of packages are cross distribution and the ones that are not you can provide the binaries and can be compiled for each distro as needed.
the kernal for each is exactly the same. this argument only works in the hope that people either dont know any better or wont actually research to find what you say is wrong.
by splitting up ubuntu from other distributions is plain and simple to make the numbers seem even smaller than they really are.
6 hours ago, blazemonger said:When Steam announced it's push on Linux support two years ago the entire 2% of the market share using Linux sang praise and glory.. today, that hype resulted in .. well.. nothing.
the same could be said for DU really. there are 115,217,872 warcraft users and about 434,761 DU players so that means DU is only 0.38% the size of warcraft
and Eve online only 8523914 players and compared to that DU is only 5.1%
so i guess if we are going to use this line of thinking then DU wont ever amount to anything and we should all stop supporting it. same logic
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4 hours ago, blazemonger said:
If NQ would change their mind and see how Shadow is a platform which would solve many potential problems and offer opportunity for them to grow their player base, it would actually be a perfect middle ground. at $37/month you get a full blown gaming PC running windows which is accessible on your Linux desktop, your phone, your tablet or whatever.
Considering that your average GFX card suitable to run DU would come in around €600 by itself at least. even that above monthly cost is not unreasonable an offers some unique advantages.
Honestly, saying that a €7/mo subscription is "fairly pricey and will quickly add up to an upgrade to my system" is, frankly speaking, nonsense.$36US per month for this absolute builds up to an upgrade quickly. Thats at the time of writing $48 australian per month that's basically 6 months and i have a second GPU that i can run and solve this issue.
and thats assuming they are going to keep that price in the last week or so tweeting that they have to restructure the pricing to make the business model sustainable. that's corporate language for "this is costing us too much renting out high end gaming blades for cheaper than any VPS service offers servers for, we are loosing money fast" so expect a price hike and a substantial one at that.
Furthermore even if i sign up to it now. looking at their offering they say it will be ready by march 29 2022. there is clearly something wrong there.
8 hours ago, GraXXoR said:I was under the impression that WSL was there to allow Windows to run Linux code.
it is but since this has happened volkan has reverse engineered it and directX 9 through to 12 are now supported
4 hours ago, blazemonger said:I get why people may choose to go with Linux, I also feel many of the arguments are no longer valid or relevant today and bottom line is simply that there is not enough market share for Linux to be a viable platform to support for game developers in general as there no reasonable expectation of recovering the time and resources spent supporting these platforms.
Why i choose Linux is because i am a red hat certified engineer and i also pay to use the operating system. it is substantially more expensive that windows and far more stable. essentially given the OS is a subscription model look at it this way. every time i dual boot into windows and spend time on windows to the exclusion of RHEL it costs me money in lost subscription time for a vastly superior operating system.
I understand most people prefer windows however I use Linux for work, i am much more accustomed to using linux and essentially linux users are being penalized by some members on this forum for the choice of operating system, essentially to play a game that is essentially a cross between Eve online and space engineers but full of bugs, both i might add work perfectly on Linux they didn't seem to have members on their forum essentially asking linux users to justify their choice in operating system. i have to admit that is getting rather old.
you should also be bundling OSX in with Linux as far as development is concerned because the kernel arch from the same unix source so the market share you are screwing your nose up at is more like 23% when you take ChromeOS (linux) and OSX into consideration
additionally windows market share is as of May this year 73.5% and it is dropping. probably largely due to the linux gaming implementation improvements over the last few years. some of those improvements such as Vulkan have made it across to OSX too
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I have been noticing a few glitches in the tutorials. in the build tutorial i have noticed that it glitches out and wont let you progress saying to remove the elements particularly if you have already removed it when it asks you to remove it. then it doesn't matter if you put them back down to remove them it wont recognise that it and wont let you progress.
in that instance i could exit the tutorial but now I am in the industry tutorial and it appears the assembly line 5 has been renamed to basic assembly line 5 and as a result it wont let you select it or anything else including the X to close the window. escape doesn't work and I cant exit the tutorial. as it wont let me interact with anything.
I literally had to end task it to get out of it
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2 minutes ago, GraXXoR said:
Seen the vanilla price of the 3080ti? $1200 before scalping for a 6-10% faster card than the $700 3080.
I bet you NVIDIA will phase out the 3080.
The free market has spoken.
f’ckn hate crypto miners.the cheapest i have seen where i live is starting at $2000, its crazy expensive. even budget cards are way more than they used to be. I was thinking about the RTX 2060
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3 hours ago, GraXXoR said:
also no direct X on Linux so you’d have to run it in “pants mode (beta)”
not entirely accurate as microsoft themselves have put a lot of development into linux code for direct X compatibility as part of their WSL integration and there are a number of modules that allow direct translation for directx compatibility with vulkan.
5 hours ago, Bazzy_505 said:at least not in a context of a viable desktop OS, much less a gaming one. Its market share has remained literally static for the past 20 years and very few except for a few diehard wine/cedega enthusiasts really care.
and yet Red Hat Enterprise Linux desktop has been commercially viable for over a decade and I am able to play most of my games in my steam library on it with no issue at all, additionally Valve obviously don't agree with this sentiment given the investment they have put into the development they have put into linux compatibility.
21 hours ago, joaocordeiro said:The anticheat program is incompatible with Linux.
Your best options are:
A virtual machine with graphics pass-through.
Some game streaming service.
I intended to upgrade my GPU when they become a thing again so I will possibly look at the virtual machine pass through option until a proper client is available. the subscription model seems fairly pricey and will quickly add up to an upgrade to my system.
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3 minutes ago, NQ-Naerais said:
Definitely frustrating, try ping a gm in the GM channel with @gm - if no response please open a ticket.
Can you provide any other details on what happened leading up to it please?
A Gm helped me out but basically i somehow got ejected out of my speeder (i am not used to the controls to this game) and i sunk to the bottom and the speeder stayed above. then i tried the fetch command but still under water and not knowing it wouldn't fetch it to my position and when i went to the outset of the lake it would not let me fetch it. not sure it was intended behavior but it may be worth setting it up so you cant get out of your ship above deep water or have its set a warning or something.
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I am stuck with on the tutorial with my speeder above water and i cant reach it. when i click fetch it says i can only use the function every 23:59 hours. and im over 18km out from the trading hub so not really able to do it on foot.
Seems to me like a game breaking bug to me
edit: never mind its fixed
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I can see there have been some posts about people wanting to but i was wondering if there has been any one who has successfully set up the client to run on linux? the launcher seems to install successfully using proton however when it launches it just crashes repeatedly.
and yes i am aware there is a lot of anti linux sentiment in the community going by a lot of the previous threads but they seem to be from a couple of years ago and some of the devs are known to be running on linux so it has to be possible.
Possible Market solution
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I have been playing for a couple of weeks now and i have noticed that everything seems to gravitate to market 6 causing a lot of grids being placed there. however the remaining markets appear to be sparse and lack market options.
if the district market clusters where accessible for example district 6 was accessible for purchases from other districts, as for the lore of the game it would not be inconsistent technologically as teleportation between the districts for players is already in game and an advanced society would use that technology for short range freight transport.
From a game perspective it would allow for decentralisation from district 6 to other districts allowing for a better experience for the player as it would be possible to access the market from a less populated district. even if this was isolated to a range for example districts accessible up to 25km away.
as it is the market 6 seems to drop fps to like 5 fps due to all the clutter.