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I guess they will make that decision when they are close to release. If they have a large playerbase who is paying lots of money they will probably not wipe ( I acknowledge its unlikely). However if the player base is small. Then they might well go for a full wipe. New players and players who started but never came back might get in knowing that the game is fixed and its a new start. We probably cant unbreak the egg but I think most of us know the game is in Alpha and really my subscription is a donation.

I have done around 25 scans on Symeon. Every tile had the same ores. Bauxite around 20 to 40lph, Chromite 20 to 40lph and Garnerite from 90 to 200lph. Since it seems that T4 and T5 ores are going to be incredibly rare. It will be interesting to see if I can make a living out of this I have invest around 1 third of my wealth. I am actually concerned I may go broke. I invested heavily in the ability to get tier 4 and 5 ore. The thing is it might be that nobody can afford to buy anything. Anyway its a challenge which is kinda enjoyable. I wonder what will happen if the few players who find tier 5 ore decide to leave the game?

Thanks space friends. I thought it was server but the log in screen was saying server was up.

The game crashed and now Im getting this. Just me or everybody?

I have been warping around getting scans done etc for Demeter. My shuttle makes my longest run with 4 cells. I did a run back to base picked up a territory unit and some honeycombe total weight about 21.5t Put in my suit and it came up at just over 15t (due to suit skills) On my trip back I used 6 cells in stead of 4. So, it seems that even though I have skills that lower the mass my ship says "no, you suit skills are irrelevant" For those who dont know, you can carry up to 20t in your suit and you ship will say you weigh nothing but if you go to say 21t the ship will count the full 21t I was under the impression that ship calculates the weight you suit says you have on you and not the weight it would have been without skills. Has something changed or was it always broken?

Day one of Demeter and zero mining units for sale. WHAT. How the hell are we supposed to pay tax with no income.

Many games make the patch (especially big ones) available for download soon as the server goes down. That way, when the server comes back on line people can hope on right away. Not sure why NQ dont do it.

So, is there any reason why its not available for download yet? I have slow internet and its going to take hours to download. I assume it will be Gb and not Mb

Yep, I'm thinking I will get starved out. I can probably pay the tax for a month, then I'm done.

I have no industry skills, so if what your saying is correct there is no way I will be able to earn the money to pay the tax on tiles I claim whilst waiting for autominers to come onto the market. I really hope NQ have actually put some thought and planning into this. Fingers crossed.

Does anybody know ....... will bots be selling auto-miners when Demeter goes live. I'm after T4 and T5, well I hope I am After .23 I did what NQ wanted and I got out of industry. I do hope they are not going to punish me for it now.

Well, they are in a lot of trouble then

If the game were correctly labelled as being Alpha then they could do a complete wipe. I think they should do a complete wipe when the time comes. The knowledge we have is a huge advantage over new players anyway.

My Space Station above Alioth has A respawn point as does one of my ships there. I crashed and died on a moon of Alioth and respawned at an org spawn point on Ion. I deactivated that and forced respawn. I respawned at Area 6 on Alioth. Bug? Broken for Space Stations?

Good question, I'm wondering if your even allowed to build on you tile before the 2 weeks has expired.

The point I believe (for NQ) is to make money. So the owner is notified and pays money to get back into the game to keep their stuff.

Since he no longer owns the construct it would be reasonable to assume he can no longer use build mode as he has no rights. That assumes the system works

It wont empty your bank account because you have to deposit the funds into the special tax account. However, after 2 weeks of no payment somebody else can claim the tile. That as far as I know. You can have 5 tiles that will be inactive if no tax paid but they can not be claimed by another player. However my was that those 5 tiles must be owned by a player and not an org.

I have a feeling that NQ is hoping that when all those notifications go out a lot of players will return to secure their stuff. Some probably will.

Haha, yes thats the point. Most people expect alpha to be shitty.

I'm not ready

I'm not sure it would be a PR disaster. One of my fav games "7days to die" has been in alpha for an incredible number of years. Its very popular and is probably the best value for money game I have ever had.

This is an argument for NQ to stop advertising the game as in BETA and start advertising it as in ALPHA If I had done thousands of scans, I would be pretty upset right now. Even though I understand why NQ feel they need to do it. Many players were very upset with .23 even though many understood why it was necessary for the vision of the game. I feel much of the disappointment is justified because the game is in BETA. As far as I am aware, most peoples expectation of BETA is that the game is complete but needs stress testing and final balancing which might take several months. Then the game will launch. So, if the game was in ALPHA, I feel that most players would have little issue with these changes because everything would be done with the expectation that it will probably change at some stage. It seems pretty clear to me that the game is really in ALPHA. ie. extreme performance issues, many features far from implementation, current major rebalancing with more to come, etc. I feel that NQ should just say "everybody we stuffed up by launching BETA too soon. We are returning to ALPHA. Everything in the game is subject to change. If your happy with that we are happy to have you"

I'm a solo player with 17 territories scattered all over the system. Only 1 is on Alioth. I do indeed intend to move throughout the system picking up ore and doing recalibrations. I dont really care either way about the scan issue. Either way, the large orgs will get the lions share. Which is the advantage of belonging to a large org, so fair enough.

Error in the dev blog? For example, if a territory has a pool of 100 l/h of a given ore and each mining unit is capable of extracting 50 l/h, then you need four mining units to maximize your extraction capacity, and any additional mining unit beyond four won't give you more yield. Should that read either 2 mining units or alternatively 25 l/h Or, am I not understanding something?