WildChild85
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@NQ please give us an update about the recruit a friend program. It should have been released 3 weeks ago and nothing has been communicated from NQ.
- What are the problems?
- When do you think it will be published?
Please talk to us.
Communication is key!
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1 minute ago, Moosegun said:
In which case I think you need to pay more attention to people replies, I CLEARLY said in a previous post - if they did not use exploits and just claimed the tiles and moved the ship it is no problem, if they used other exploits then different story. Do yourself a favour, read posts, and reply to the content of them, dont just keep repeating yourself.
Calm down. I said I am not yelling at you.
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Just now, Moosegun said:
In which case throw the book at them, 100% ban them, they are cheating asshats, I dont want them anywhere near the game. If what you say is true, slightly confused why you havent mentioed it before though, bearing in mind it was a big part of the conversation.
It's all fine. I am not yelling at you. I am yelling at them.
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Just now, Moosegun said:
Why is someone stealing something abandoned in an empty tile, through claiming the tile 'clearly' not intended? I literally thought it WAS intended, 100% thought it was a really clever piece of gameplay. You cant say I am 'wrong' because you are not me, sorry we have different opinions. As I have said, without NQ clarifying whether or not if was intended, there is no case to answer. To be honest we are going around in circles here, think we are best agreeing to disagree. No harm no foul, fly safe.
They did not claim the tile
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1 minute ago, michaelk said:
I don't understand why this is still a discussion to be honest.
Ex post facto is a solid legal postulate for a reason. You shouldn't punish people retroactively. If you want people to not do something, say so. That's among the most basic legal principles ever -- for a good reason.
Players clearly intended to harm other players, but that's ostensibly part of this game. You think that religious cult on Alioth is going to devote themselves to charity?!
Players shouldn't have to guess as to what NQ intended to be a valid mechanic; NQ has to do enough guessing about that, themselves.
They continued doing it for days AFTER Nq already told them to stop it.
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Just now, Moosegun said:
Here is the rub though, you 'clearly' see it as an exploit, I dont, I would have kept it in the game (neither of us are actually right, they are both valid opinions). That fact that we both have very different opinions on it is kind of my point, the issue here is NQ not clarifying sooner the situation, without that clarification there can be no punishment.
I will take you silence to mean you DID lose a ship, not an issue, you have every right to be pissed off, just that one of us in this conversation is giving an unbias opinion.I actually didn't loose anything. But I read a lot in the official discord of the reaction of people and I know that this incident made the game loosing a lot of players. It is one thing, if you go into the pvp zone and you loose everthing, because you choosed it and another thing if you think you are save in the save zone but you are not because players used clearly not intended game mechanics.
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8 hours ago, Moosegun said:
If they are openly advertising actual exploits I 100% agree, but this was not an exploit, it was a use of gameplay mechanics which it was unclear whether they were intended to be used that way. Like i said, I see the it as a 100% legit thing to do, you dont, it is a grey area. NQ should have clarified it was seen as a exploit, even if they didnt have a fix for it, if they had done then I agree a ban would be appropriate. As NQ didnt clarify the situation, there is no way you can sanction the players involved.
If they are openly advertising stuff that is confirmed as an exploit, different story.
For the basis of clarity / bias can you confirm if you lost a ship to these people?PVP by choice. Stealing a ship is pvp. Pvp in the save zones is clearly an exploit.
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On 10/14/2020 at 3:11 AM, Lunchbox said:
@WildChild85 Where did you get your numbers? From what I hear they are grossly inflated. It sounds more like a post by a victim then it does a concerned citizen. Also to call for a ban to a large clan in beta is purely an emotional decision on your part. If this was the actual release, I would agree with you but what happens in beta stays in beta in any game genre. I have participated in Alpha's and beta's for over four decades and if this is the worse you have seen to call for a ban then you really need to play more games in these stages. But, you are allowed to have an opinion just like everyone else.....Just seems like your starting with a victim mentality to get the mob rioting. Go mine or something.
A clan that actively advertises to use bugs and exploits. And I don't mean permanently ban. Temporary would be good enough.
Which numbers?
And no it doen't stay in the beta. There won't be any wipe anymore. In terms of persistancy we are already after the release.
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22 hours ago, Palad1n said:
NQ has made their intentions very clear moving forward from today regarding exploits. They listed the ones that they deem "Acceptable" for now, which does not harm other players experience and then was very clear on what is NOT acceptable. NQ has already stated that anyone caught doing any exploit that is not currently on the acceptable list can face consequences up to losing their account.
While I do agree that NQ should have moved much faster on the stealing ships exploit, at this point in time there is nothing more to be done. If you know of or encounter any other exploit, they have clearly stated to report them so they can investigate and take action on fixing. This warp cell exploit with mass has already been addressed as something they do not allow, so if you see orgs using this, send in a ticket with specific details, such as loc, time, date, name of ships, etc.
In every MMO game you will always have players who exploit, cheat, create issues all in the name of "but the game let me do it". Most orgs will not tolerate such behavior and I have a feeling that in time, player justice in-game will dole out punishment to groups and orgs that have gained these reputations.
Recording game footage is always the smoking gun that devs love to see when reporting issues, so if you have the ability to record gameplay that saves the last 5-15 min of footage at all times, you never know what you might capture for those who go out of their way to investigate issues. NQ has stated this is the only warning they are giving and moving forward will be taking punitive actions. So if there are players, groups, orgs still doing them, get your in-game recordings going and then submit to devs.
But where is the punishment. Every rule from NQ is worthless if they don't enforce it. Today I heard about another incident I will post tomorrow. And again the player did not got punished even if he changed the game files.
NQ doesn't punish anybody. From now on I can only suggest everbody to use each exploit and bug that is not explicitly prohibited very excessively to enforce NQ to act. And you know what, you can actually use bugs and exploits that are explicitly prohibited, because NQ will not punish you. More updates about that tomorrow.
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3 minutes ago, michaelk said:
I get it....but "ex post facto" is a pretty well accepted legal and moral postulate...It isn't fair to dole out punishment in retrospect, after NQ declared this "forbidden". If that doesn't seem fair, the onus is on NQ to deal with this more promptly.
That's extremely bad. For them to recognize the issue and ignore it is either incompetent in the extreme or outright racist. There's no place for racism anywhere; I don't care what level of employee you are or how crappy your job is, you don't ignore something like this.
NQ needs some better leadership at the customer service level.
If you think being blocked by walls or having your ship stolen is bad...it doesn't compare to racist idiots polluting the world with hate. If they can't address something that simple, good luck policing which walls are okay and which ones aren't.
Does that mean, that NQ has to forbid each upcoming exploit and bug seperately?
Bug is bug and exploit is exploit. The usage should be punished by temporary or permanent ban.
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15 minutes ago, Frigidman said:
Best course of action is to simply ignore them. Much like ignoring a brat having a tantrum. They do this because its the only way they can get attention. There is nothing anyone can say that will change this, and in trying only stirs them up more as the hate and anger is what they live on.
So simply ignore them (better yet, just put them on mute and move on with your life).
I would ban them permanently
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Just now, Anopheles said:
Seems a shame people would rather "run to teacher" rather than take responsibility for their own safety. I'm talking about maneuvering other ships, which was act of clever roguery at worst, punishing those who did not take enough care to fly to safe ground.
DU is about making a civilisation, not making a sterile, ideal, civilisation with no crime, theft or "immoral behaviour".
Well that means let us all use bugs and exploits in the future, because who cares...
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9 minutes ago, Mordgier said:
Yawn.
Has NQ even done anything about the duppers, link exploiters and mass exploiters?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that orgs warping their pvp ships and haulers around the galaxy for 1 cell at a time are a much bigger deal but hey what do I know...
I agree, but this doesn't harm anybody directly leading to big quit waves.
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About the situation:
The organization Desolation (https://community.dualthegame.com/organization/4124/) has used a bug very actively to move ships from the Safe Zones (even planets) to the pvp zone to destroy and therefore steal them. Around 300 players have lost there ships and a lot of new players with that everthing they had resulting in a big quit wave. We know, that Desolation even allows their members explicitly in their rules to use any kind of bug and exploit, which is clearly against the rules of Novaquark.
NQ now officially confirmed, that this organization doesn't get any punishment. So basicly this whole rules here
are complete bullshit, because you can do whatever you want, Novaquark will not punish you.
If that is the way NQ wants to go, this game will die pretty quickly because all new players, that don't have the power or organizations behind them yet will quit the game very quickly.
In my opinion, this is a very poor and weak behavior of Novaquark and a punsh in the face for every honest player in this community.
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Neue Features!
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On 8/27/2020 at 12:24 PM, joaocordeiro said:
Im a coder and i agree with NQ.
It as allways been quite clear that C loading in lua was game breaking and not allowed.
I warned you guys about this.
But you needed writen proof from NQ.
Here it is.
The problem is not, that they don't allow it. That was clear and I agree with NQ, too.
The problem is, that they don't deliver required features!
Read exactly what I wrote before making such comments.
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Well NQ, to be honest, yes these steps you made are totally necessary, BUT the DLLs gave us features you still didn't gave us and that are absolutely required.
These are for example:
- external requests for receiving and sending data to our own apis (VERY IMPORTANT)
- a json encoding/deconding that is not stupidly slow
- communication between programming boards
- and more
The coder community in this game is big and needs more specialized features to make this game as great as it deserves to be. But if you restrict everything and give us nothing back, I don't know how long coders will stick to the game.
I am actually quiet disappointed how coders get ignored and handled like 2nd class people.
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I like the changes, but yes that will mess up a lot of people