DevisDevine
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On 10/27/2019 at 5:25 PM, plmkoi said:
Yes, to get any type of money, but what I am referring to is faucets, that means creation of currency. Faucets are non player controlled ways for the game to inject cash into the game and you have sinks that removes the money from the game to avoid devaluing the money. If the only method of generating cash is through the sale of ore to npc's, I expect people to just hoard the cash. People afraid of "infinite currency" have obviously never played any mmo outside of a theme park.
I believe the developers are going to have to put more thought into how they are going to inject cash into the game. If you want to get a better idea on how a sand box economy works, this guy does a okay job explaining it.
Trust me I know what they are and how sand box economies work. I spent years in eve and my first year on this forum trying to get a better idea of their planned economy and the abuse of temoprary facuets and sinks. Unfortunatly they devs havent gone i to it further.
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Also I recomend you get authorized on the discord. That way you can get quick help from other players.
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On 10/22/2019 at 8:42 PM, plmkoi said:
I think the fear should not be the infinite money, but the lack of money. I really do hope that the studio really looks into another faucet besides just relying on ore buy/sell orders. Sounds like hell if I have to dig for rocks just to make some cash. That is going to kill game pr: Noob: How do you make money? Vet: Go out into the wild and dig for rocks and sell it to npc's. After doing that 150 times you can finally afford a speeder.
Well regardless of faucets a player could earn money in other ways, like designing a ship and selling it. The faucets are the ways the economy as a whole would earn isk.
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Yeah. NDA doesnt let us say much. But as stated look at videos NQ has posted. It is still Alpha but you get whats expected from them. If you like the kinda game they say they are making its worth backing.
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So it seems you have your account linked and game downloaded.
The next step id suggest is get discord and get confirmed there to access the NDA section there.
As for getting on the game, the servers are not up atm. They dont run 24/7 yet. Lately it has been thursday - monday skipping every 4th week ish. You can see the status and schedules here.
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Welcome. It help if you let people know what your looking for in a group Nd a bit about your playstyle
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well DU is the future, thousands of years infact.
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This is not an NDA channel. See the getting NDA discord guide above and look under the NDA threads for play guides.
Many of us on discord will help walk you through getting started.
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20 hours ago, unbelievabletoy said:
Hello everybody,
Can someone tell me what is planned to tame the huge craters left behind by all the players later on? The many tunnels that puncture the planets. Will there be a slippage of the earth here?
Best regards
toyThe plan is to fill them with the corpses of noobs that join the game.
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2 hours ago, Nanoman said:
Guess we shouldn't have brought ourselves with us...
Speak for yourself, I tried to not let me in. But they wouldn't listen to me.
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Welcome.
I can safely say its new, as for better? Well thats not looking good.
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Sorry we dont allow human beans here. Its an abomination of science and nature to to create human beans.
Now get back to mining.
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Clearly a fake post. Can we get a mod to remove it. Theres no such things as girls on the internet.
I think most of us have experienced that. Theres some simple tips and tricks. But this is non NDA. I suggust getting on discord. Its easier and many of us there wont mind helping out new people.
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Welcome.
Get discord. Thats the best tip. This thread isnt NDA so no one can say much.
But its much easier to help and answer questions on coms.
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But do you offer safe spaces for your members?
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Welcome, you can get alpha access now by backing if you havent already.
But you forgot Eve. A single universe with all players interacting, no instancing.
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I guess you wouldnt have been a part of Usually Kloaked around 09-10 then.
As stated, we have extensive forumn sections for NDA, the discord is more of a way for us to interact during testing.
And not many of us are as content as you. Might as well play some Mass Effect 3 while you wait for SC.
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Welcome
I could use a scripter. My scripter decided to 'wait till release' to try the game so hes useless.
I do some but its not my prary thing.
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Oh sure, just give up on Singular Universe so easy and move on.
Welcome.
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You will have to use the new bot to do so. Sry I am unsure how it works, but instructions were posted.
Are you a backer that has access to alpha 2?
If you did just back it can take a bit for your pledge to register. Should have plenty of time between now ans the next test to get it clear.
Welcome and hopefully we can chat on discord tomorrow.
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33 minutes ago, Haunty said:
Eve has some interesting data about it's economy: https://www.eveonline.com/article/pxf0wt/monthly-economic-report-august-2019
I don't think there is such a simple solution, but as long as it can be made somewhat stable it should be fine. I would think fewer faucets would be easier to control.
Easier to control. But the question will be is it as seemless or obvious.
Faucets and sinks need to be balanced though.
The only faucets i know of atm is bootstrap market bots that are said to be temporary. Whats the long term faucets.
And I currently know of no sinks. Theres pvp for destruction of elements driving demans, but its not a currency sink. Maybe a market tax like eve?
I've tried getting more details in the past but it seems it wasnt worked out or they just werent ready to tell us.
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25 minutes ago, WilburKit said:
This is a great idea and adds a layer of realism to a already amazing game. However it would require thinking and planning to work well.
How is finite currency realism? It couldnt be further from real.
Ignoring fiat currency, whatever was used to trade was rare, you you could still find more of it. IE, gold and silver.
If truely finite it will become to rare to use for everyday trading. And as I pointed out above, it leads to hoarding.
Dont get me wrong, as someone in on the ground floor ill take it. But I also have plans to abuse the hell out of it if they do make that decision.
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Well youre doing a poor job of it.
welcome to the circus. I suggest you get discord access before testing. Theres a lot of useful data on the forums, but its hard to sort through. Its easier for people to help and answer questions if youre on there.
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Imagine a game where money is finite. You join 5 years later and all the money is issued. Sure things are cheap, but good luck gettinf that 5quanta needed.
As the existing money is spread thin between more new players, it is harder to aquire. This makes the old wealthy and new poor.
I have never gotten sufficient answers on how they will handle source and sinks, but early talks years ago indicated they were looking at how Eve managed their economy. Which Id say is an MMO that CCP handled it very well.
Finite Currency
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If you try and criticize me please dont quote me out of context. As I specifically said regardless of faucets and sinks in the instance you are quoting from.
As a player, I dont need the isk I make to directly come from a faucet, I can still earn isk from doing things for other player that have it.
This was a direct response to someone stating that if ore buyers are the only faucets the mining would be the only way to make isk.
As for you method of making isk in Eve, I knew a guy who single handed did what you are talking about rose the price of plex from about 250 to 350 mil just to pay for a new station. Ofcouse typically he made his isk by spending thousands a month on the GTC to replace motherships he stupidly lost.