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    Solar Secure :: Shame On Both Sides

    in General Discussions

    Posted

    Responding negatively to spam doesn't make this a toxic community. It means we want the spam to stop. That's all. Dunno why that's hard to understand.

    but you see, even after the spam had stopped people continued to be so toxic. I dont see why its so hard for people to stay calm and resolve the issue. I know this cause it happened to me after my rookie mistakes. 

    Solar Secure :: Shame On Both Sides

    in General Discussions

    Posted

     

     
    Pointing out something. I figure this should have gone without clue. I'm OutlandishRep and welcome to the fantastic barrel of misery and anger known as my posts. 
     
    There have been some things going around. Noticed anything? I'm sure you have.
     
    There are spam posters. You know what that means. We have reached the classic point of boards. The people who are doing stuff to irritate others. You know, like me. These people aren't me though. They are people who are purposely causing others some grief. I'm just throwing the grief of other onto their desks.
     
    The Problem?
     
    At this time a month ago, there was a user. His name was Sakej99. One day he decided to post some spam. This spam wasn't in a can. It was spam that festered with hate and rhetoric of the stereotypically internet kind. The organization supposedly behind this spam? The Diverse Unified Alliance.
     
    After looking through their members, there wasn't a Sakej99 listed. Contacting Dominar Diablo, I inquired about this. Minutes of trying to get him to talk without blocking minute ended up revealing that Sakej99 had simply left.
     
    Useless. This was all useless stuff that we didn't need. But one fateful day on November 24th, this unappealing type of post known as spam happened again! Can you guess the person that did this? Let me give you a hint. It's Sakej99.
     
    A new line of hateful attacks at both Sakej99 and the organization he posted for began. The organization? Solar Secure. The child of Solar Empire. Another useless post with 44 ignorant and disgusting replies emerged.
     
    Want to know the funny thing? Both leaders of Solar Empire and the Diverse Unified Alliance posted something to deny their involvement in this spam. That. Should. Go. Without. Saying.
     
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    Both of them publicly apologized or stated they had no involvement. Great.
     
    Solar Secure had a different response though. 
     
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    Agreement that the community wash harsh on one post. Agreed. Agreement that the community was oversensitive about a spammer that just posted a quick, non-contributing post. Disagreed. This was the community reacting negatively to a post that didn't need to exist. You know, the desired effect. This reaction is better than an upvote haven. The community wants bad posts to be given honor? No!
     
    Conclusion To This?
     
    Idiotic. A word to describe the reaction. Idiotically, members started arguing with each other in this post. Idiotically, it spiraled into a negative feedback loop.
     
    Spurs of hate spread as one posts something that isn't needed. Personal opinion applies. Community opinion triumphs over personal opinion. Sakej99, a legate of Solar Secure, caused problems that negatively effected the organization. I'll leave the questioning of Sakej99 alone. Spam. Overreaction. Both points that need to be mentioned.
     
    A non-useful post that contributed nothing. Shouldn't have happened.
     
    The community festering hate and harmful rhetoric into that post. Shouldn't have happened.
     
    Want to know something? This community can be toxic. It can birth things like DUExplorers, fan lore, contests. It can birth the opposite as well.
     
    One step away from a OutlandishRep news segment. You know what the problem is? Stop contributing to making it worse. Both sides.
     
    A day after, Sakej99 sent a present. A wonderful Thanksgiving Present.
     
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    I accept your invitation to join Solar Secure. You probably don't want me at this point but I'll still join.
     
    I'll see all of you in the comments. OutlandishRep brings you an Outlandish day.

     

    But is he wrong though? I have see *SO* much hostility when it comes to newer people. Like the only way to make people learn is to yell and scream and tease till said newbie gets the message. 

     

    I think it would better the community as a whole if instead of being so damn toxic. We actually tried to be decent human beings and kindly help new people understand whats right and whats wrong. 

     

    but more than ever people need to understand this one simple thing- its an online forum. Its not real, it doesnt exist in physical space, you cant touch it, smell it, taste it...SO WHY GET SO WORKED UP OVER IT! 

     

    I understand spam is annoying but lashing out is NOT the proper way to do things. 

     

    Stay calm, stay civilized, and above all. Be professional.

    please delete

    in Org Updates & Announcements

    Posted

    It was not any of us that wanted to create solar secure. It was Bosses decision and he asked us permission to stay in our organization but run his own in the side. I don't want to say he didn't take inspiration from us with the name but still. We made agreements that we would provide a place for them to work like a Bae of operations as part of the agreement. But allow him to make his own decisions on how the organization itself is run. I do not control him or his org. I do not order him around and tell people to do this and that. He wanted to be independent but have our protection so that's what he's got. Which is why I disapproved of his spamming mistake. But like I said his business is able to be hired for work outside of TSE territory. They aren't just for us. Which is why he asked multiple organizations if they wanted to join. He only wants you to be friendly towards TSE because they like us and some of their members are our members. We are allies, it's simple as that.

    please delete

    in Org Updates & Announcements

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    @mmtheboss, No, I'm more here for Unity. We need to be united as empires. The pirates and the heavy republics are all above us in numbers now, and number means visibility, popularity.

    So we don't need to know, but if you are contracted by the SE (and them only I mean), they take no responsibility of your actions? I don't get it her

     

     

    Our agreements with them are agreements you would make with another org basically. They chose to affiliate their name with us and we don't object cause who are we to tell people what their orgs should be called? Do you think i would approach Kytheum and tell him he needs to change the name of his org to something other than "Empire" because we both share the word "Empire" in our org names? I don't think so. Its simple. They are security forces that wanted to have a base of operations and people to protect and we contracted them as such. They are a independent org which ANYONE from ANY org can join. Kind of like CSYN. I hope i have made it clearer :/

    Heimera Trade Xchange

    in Org Updates & Announcements

    Posted

    "

     

     

     

    Just wait. There is still a lot of work to be done.

     

    It is that awkward time of the year: presents are too late for Thanksgiving and too early for Christmas. 

     

    The scares of halloween are past and the glowing embers of Bonfire Night are long cold. 

     

    Autumn's all but gone and the chilling tales of winter empty the agoras.  

     

    Days are colder and shorter; nights are freezing, deterring even the bold. 

     

    It's that time of the year, authors find more peace to work on their lore.

     

    Even children talk less, as the stress of exams take their toll.

     

    Few walk the streets and smiling in the wind is a chore.  

     

    But, surprises still fly and are penned down by the hearth on a scroll.

     

    "

    oh wow thats a beautiful

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