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im not saying pvp is not going to happen but the majority of people are not going to pvp. even in a large org vs org fight. the minority of that org is actually participating in pvp. it really depends on what incentive do you have to pvp. like can you take over their ship? its going to come down to risk reward system. does the reward of fighting this other ship out weigh the risk.

 

until we actually see how much of a grind making ships and other constructs is you cant really say how much pvp there is going to be. everyone is going to want to pvp until they spend a week getting their ship all setup to lose it in a short pvp match.

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19 hours ago, Lord_Void said:

This may be true for some groups, but certainly not all. I am the head diplomat for Band of Outlaws (the 2nd largest group currently) and we largely have PvP as one of our core attractions. We very much intend to expend a large amount of resources fighting other groups, either in full wars or fun skirmishes. We also shun the idea of too many alliances, wanting to avoid the "blue donut" as we call it. 

 

 

It was planned for after release, but now that that stretch goal was hit it will be available at release instead of a few months after release. 

I did not realize it was planned after realease. kinda knew to the whole kickstarter goals system with games. I agree with you that there will be some that love and will enjoy the trade offs of pvp. the problem is if everyone gets allied up it will make it hard. eventually it will be the fighters vs the non fighters and be a huge war. which neither side really benifits from. this is just my opinions bases on other sandbox games that just let people do what ever they want. 

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46 minutes ago, Thokan said:

 

The fact that you compare this game to games not PvP-centered does not make DU all about crafting. Heck, those games aren't even MMOs (except maybe that Dark and Light one, looks like a weird mix between a traditional grindfest MMO and ARK) and offer to perspective on the massive Org vs. Org PvP meta that might occur in DU because of it's scale and PvP elements.

 

Yes, a lot of time will be spent on crafting and resource gathering for most people. PvP will however not be a "minigame to take a break" in this Sandbox MMO PvP Game, but instead a core element - at least certainly for the bigger organizations.

 

Sometimes I get the feeling people forget this is a MMO.

 

 

ark is pvp centered. people just dont want to waste thousands of hours they spend grinding mats to a stupid fight that might last a few hours.

 

if you think that large orgs are going to risk thousands of hours of materials and design of a ship to fight another large org you are mistaken. nobody will ever fight a fair fight. and with all the orgs forming alliances even before alpha there is going to be a lack of pvp. play any other sand box game and tell me how much pvp you actually get? not much. other then the super large groups dicking with people that cant even defend them selves. or the lone wolf looking to pick people off that are not even paying attention. the fact that construct vs construct wasnt even planned initial and was an extended goal tends to side with my logic on the game.

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On 7/15/2017 at 5:53 AM, Toecutter said:

Sounds well balanced and very inviting

Welp, there goes my hope in this

It seems that you have not grasped the concept of the game yet. I would describe it as a civilization builder highly connected with farming and politic building. pvp would be a mini game for you to take a break from the core game play. Look at ARK, Mine craft, Dark & Light. These are all sandbox games that give you the ability to pvp but the majority of the players rather just build big bases and be creative, and if some troll comes along messing with people pull out their op secret weapon to dispose of them quickly.

 

I can tell you right now. if you are looking for a game like chromehounds where you can customize your ships to be any size and specific weapons then take them out into space in a pvp match you are looking at the wrong game. 90% of anyones time is going to be in farming resources to build stuff. I can confidently say that as a single person it would take you months of grinding to build a huge spaceship like you are wanting.

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3 hours ago, armyboy941 said:

 

I do gotta say though. $5000 for a sub with only 1000 subs is outrageously expensive. That sounds more like the price for trying to get a modship on a default sub.

lol it was just a random number. but if you look at the potential of what it can be never know. businesses are bought all the time based on projections

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2 minutes ago, Comrademoco said:

Ladies and gentlemen,

 

This right here above is what happens when you make assumptions on a situation based on a few posts without knowing the entire history and know in detail of what has been going on these past 2 years. 

 

Afaik, selling subreddits is against Reddit's terms of service.

 

Please let the people currently involved in the situation resolve this, both moderation teams of both subreddits have been in contact for the past several days.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Comrademoco

This right here is what happens when someone keeps dredging up this mess over and over. I have made no assumptions. My comments are based on yamamushi stating he tried to buy him out with a ruby pledge.

 

against terms of service does not mean it doesnt happen.

 

Glad to hear it. hopefully yall come to a mutually beneficial arrangement.

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Just now, Lord_Void said:

 

Then if it was you, you'd get nothing

Here is the problem. he is not wanting to sale or even give up power. the smaller subreddit is the one that wants this. unless you are going to pay out the ears you are not going to get your way. personally i hate people that just register names to resell them at a crazy price but it is a valid business model. 

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47 minutes ago, armyboy941 said:

 

If you look literally 6 posts up, there already has been a VERY enticing offer from @yamamushi.

 

just because you think $500 in dual universe swag / game is worth it. Obviously he does not. His subreddit has the better name and has 4 times the number of subs.  he isnt even getting $1 per sub with that deal. Like i said you have to make it worth his time to give up the subreddit. which it probably wont come cheaply. Personally if it was me id be looking for atleast $5000

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sounds like alot of complaining. if you want that subreddit so much just offer to by that guy out. just like if someone got the domain name i wanted i would have to pay a premium price. if you are unwilling to buy him out then you have no reason to complain about he runs his subreddit.