[There are Still ways to Hijack Ships from Territorys]

30 minutes ago, Musclethorpe said:

This isn't guilty until proven innocent. The accused perpetrator voluntarily admitted to his actions, which were to the letter against the rules. He parented a motionless dynamic core that was not his, parked on a planetary hex, moved it onto his ship, a ship designed to do this no less, and moved it into PvP space.

 

The other party simply landed on said ship, which began moving on its own due to the owner putting it in motion before logging off. These events are not the same, and you are being disingenuous. 

 

 

grow up..

 

unless they can prove it wasn't intentional then they also moved a ship into pvp space from safe space followed it no less and proceeded to blow it up. if they simply let it go and did nothing that is one thing but they intentionally chased it. or are you oblivious to this fact?? 

 

FACTS: (both sides)

both parties are guilty of transgressions against each other. 

Intentionally moved / followed ships from safe space into pvp space

both parties committed the same act against each other aka both ships were blown up.

 

OP should've just left the ship there and reported it. but they had to go move it into pvp zone and blow it up.

if they recorded the incident why leave the part out of the video about how it got into pvp zone?? they could atleast show it moving on its own when they got to it. then simply cut parts of the video out, but no they just show the part of it being blown up.

 

also OP has some holes in hist story. if it was on a claimed tile by him how did it get manouver tooled ???? shouldnt be possible unless the RDMS was sent on the hex to be able to manouver constructs. tried thinking about that one ?

 

 

 

[There are Still ways to Hijack Ships from Territorys]

still need to prove it was not intentional otherwise its just verbal word.  its obvious they recorded it. so why don't they show even a portion of it. ??

 

its not that hard...

 

but like i said if they cant show it was not intentional the overall result is still the same. safe zone > pvp space > ship dead. same offence

 

 

[There are Still ways to Hijack Ships from Territorys]

1 hour ago, Musclethorpe said:

These are not the same situations, but you know that, don't you? You logged off with your ship in motion. You set it on a course to PvP space, with the intended mechanics in place to make your ship move again the moment anyone was parented to it. This is in comparison to you maneuvering a parked ship on a planet surface to take into PvP space. 

 

I have a long history of piracy and being pro pvp, so I know when I smell a rat. You are arguing in bad faith, and playing dumb when you know exactly what you did. Now you suggest their ban when they turn the tables on you, even though what they did was lawful. If you didn't want your ship to move (very far) without you in it, an active ECU would have brought it to a stop in short order.

 

As for NQ, they should revert the change back to that simply seeing a ship should place it into motion again. Take your L and gtfo.

someone has there panties in a knot..... anways

 

" After our Member got back to the Ship it was speeding up to 4000km/h. So we decided to let hiss hip fly into the PVP Zone and shot it Down. "

If you watch the video the OP doesn't show how they got it from safe space into pvp space.

 

Unless the OP can show in a video they didn't intentionally move the ship from safe space into pvp space both side are guilty of the same action.

quite convenient that this part of the video was left out.

 

"decided to" this seems more like you intentionally "bumped it" and then proceeded to then blow it up if you had simply left it alone and notified NQ is one thing however unless you can show video evidence this was not intentional you are as much as guilty as the other party. and that would be the end of this issue. either A) both sides get punished B ) nothing happens as both sides are guilty or c) if OP can prove this wasn't intentional then only 1 party is guilty.

 

What i am trying to say is NQ / community can learn from this:

 

update the rules in a official location: preferably a link on the homepage (just forums alone is unacceptable) there will be far to many people who don't check forums

 

NQ also need to flush out idea's / strategies on how to deal with player ships left idle on people's hexes who don't even play anymore, else we are going to see this behavior continue.