Rhheno Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 hello currently i am downloading the game, but i want to know more about the markeedragon payment... does it work as a steam code u put under my producsx next to the ''add game time''? im asking cause there are no payment options in my country, just want to be sure as i can only get money to paypal,,, and from paypal i can pay on markee dragon thanks for reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarcata Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Rhheno said: hello currently i am downloading the game, but i want to know more about the markeedragon payment... does it work as a steam code u put under my producsx next to the ''add game time''? im asking cause there are no payment options in my country, just want to be sure as i can only get money to paypal,,, and from paypal i can pay on markee dragon thanks for reading I would not spend money on a dubious site without company registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novean-32184 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 LOL @Zarcata Markeedragon has possibly been around longer than you have been alive That you can't find his company registration does not mean he does not have one. He is also an official business partner with NQ @Rhheno When you buy gametime on Markee's site, you get sent a code by email, you enter that code on the DU webpage under "my products" Rhheno and Messaline 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarcata Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, Jake Arver said: That you can't find his company registration does not mean he does not have one. He is also an official business partner with NQ He is obliged to state them. Also the legal seat of his business and the business owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novean-32184 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, Zarcata said: He is obliged to state them. Also the legal seat of his business and the business owner. https://store.markeedragon.com/aboutus.php https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_az/L17760100 Something.. something .. do your homework before you make wild and unfounded accusations Jinxed and Underhook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarcata Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jake Arver said: https://store.markeedragon.com/aboutus.php https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_az/L17760100 Something.. something .. do your homework before you make wild and unfounded accusations He has to display this mandatory information on his website. As a customer, I don't have to search for this information on the internet, which is not difficult to understand, is it? They are missing on his website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novean-32184 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, Zarcata said: He has to display this mandatory information on his website. Says who? The website states it is a privately held LLC, which should suffice and allow anyone needing more info to find it within 10 seconds But I'll allow you to prove your claim, where can I find the legal requirement for a private US company (or any private company for that matter) to do this? Please provide me the link to the documentation/regulation. All this is beside the point though, Markee has been around for decades and as he is an official business partner with NQ, I'd expect companies like CCP and NQ to have done their due diligence on vetting their partners. And I am pretty sure Markee knows his legal obligations to a greater extent than you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarcata Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Jake Arver said: Says who? Where can I find the legal requirement for a private US company (or any private company for that matter) to do this? Please provide me the link to the documentation/regulation. Even if an imprint is not necessary in the USA or in many other countries of the world. As soon as you want to work with customers in Europe or even just provide information for EU citizens, you run a massive risk without an imprint. So, as these DualUniverse subscriptions are offered in Europe and by NQ based in Europe, customers are bound by European law. As a result, the EU can at least make it more difficult or prohibit trading or operating a trade within the EU. Datenschutz-Grundverordnung: DSGVO als übersichtliche Seite (dsgvo-gesetz.de) TMG - nichtamtliches Inhaltsverzeichnis (gesetze-im-internet.de) OLG Hamm, 17.12.2013 - I-4 U 100/13 - dejure.org Edited July 26, 2022 by Zarcata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novean-32184 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 So where in this document is the claim you make? As a US company dealing with EU customers, you must comply with GDPR in relation to these customer's data, yes. But that is irrelevant to what you claim here. Anyway, this goes well beyond the scope of this thread so whatever .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarcata Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jake Arver said: So where in this document is the claim you make? As a US company dealing with EU customers, you must comply with GDPR in relation to these customer's data, yes. But that is irrelevant to what you claim here. Anyway, this goes well beyond the scope of this thread so whatever .. The GDPR has taken over the wording of the TMG, accordingly it is only decisive to whom the provider addresses as a customer. The customers are therefore not only located in America, but also in Europe and Germany. Accordingly, the imprint obligations are given for these customers. A judgement of the OLD Hamm is already linked above as an example. Of course, he can also ignore everything and hope that the bureaucracy does not work...but it is still not legally safe. Edit: Just as a tip: He could point out on his website that his offers apply exclusively to non-European customers. Then he could avoid it from a purely legal point of view. Edited July 26, 2022 by Zarcata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhheno Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 thanks a lot for the answer, just bought and was super fast and safe 🙂 got my code and game time if only my internet was faster, things would be perfect haha Novean-32184 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blundertwink Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Markeedragon is more legit and trustworthy than Xsolla ever will be... Not following the letter of the law in every situation doesn't make you wrong, mean you're doing wrong, or mean you can't be trusted. There are mountains of companies that do business in the EU that don't post this information...often because they aren't familiar with the requirements, not because they are trying to scam you. That doesn't mean they aren't trustworthy...nor does having this legal compliance mean you can be trusted. I mean, anyone can post this information on their website...are you then going to check to make sure it's accurate before you ring you card? It seems like this sort of regulation doesn't really do anything of substance to mitigate scams or foster trust. I know it's a total tangent but just saying...following every law or regulation doesn't always make you the more trustworthy party. Novean-32184 and Metsys 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novean-61657 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 @Zarcata Us Europeans start to get antagonistic when papa US wants to tell us what to do, but that's also the case vice versa. Also keep in mind that these are time codes for MMOs, these might very well fall outside of the VAT requirements (just as giftcards apparently are not included in these rules). https://help.shopify.com/en/manual/taxes/tax-on-digital-products#digital-goods-in-the-european-union https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-03/Indicative list of electronically supplied services.pdf Honestly, there is a LOT of information out there, not all of it is correct as many have their own business interests to promote and often that is directly linked to the pro-counter arguments. But honestly, It's not our business how that business is run. To date Markee has honored all things I've bought there, N=1, but in my book that is trustworthy. Might that business run into issues down the road with VAT owed to the EU, possibly... Zarcata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndle Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 4:13 AM, Zarcata said: Even if an imprint is not necessary in the USA or in many other countries of the world. As soon as you want to work with customers in Europe or even just provide information for EU citizens, you run a massive risk without an imprint. So, as these DualUniverse subscriptions are offered in Europe and by NQ based in Europe, customers are bound by European law. As a result, the EU can at least make it more difficult or prohibit trading or operating a trade within the EU. Datenschutz-Grundverordnung: DSGVO als übersichtliche Seite (dsgvo-gesetz.de) TMG - nichtamtliches Inhaltsverzeichnis (gesetze-im-internet.de) OLG Hamm, 17.12.2013 - I-4 U 100/13 - dejure.org I have heard Markee say on stream a few times that his relationship with NQ is as an overseas distributor, meaning that both parties agree that Markee's company is not meant to "work with customers in Europe" even if some EU citizens may elect to use his site over the official one. Zarcata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strumfex Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 i dont know if this helps anyway but i bought a code from him and he delivered in a few hours ( but was past midnight in US ) so is not a scam . i also know a friend who reccomended me this game who bought a few years in codes for all his accounts. Yeah i know , the guy is crazy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeddrick Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Markee Dragon is well known and has been selling game time codes for a number of games for a long time. I bought some 6 month codes from it recently and got them quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliensalmon Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I just got my code from his company. It came fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumathoin Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 NovaQuark Support told me to use Markee Dragon to buy game time, so I'm going to assume it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadSlapper Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Well I have used MarkeeDragon for about 2 years now with no problems and he has a fast service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daphne Jones Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 7:47 PM, Rhheno said: hello currently i am downloading the game, but i want to know more about the markeedragon payment... does it work as a steam code u put under my producsx next to the ''add game time''? im asking cause there are no payment options in my country, just want to be sure as i can only get money to paypal,,, and from paypal i can pay on markee dragon thanks for reading I did the markee dragron thing after verifying that it's officially endorsed by NQ. They email you a code and you put it in under my products on the DU website. All worked smoothly in about 10 minutes and the DU website acknowledges my sub time. Go ahead and do it. (Or DU it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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