VerZalj Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hey guys, My PC is a not an antiquity, but it's been a few years. I'm wanting to upgrade my current setup a bit and wanted to see if I could get some advice on what gear is working the best with DU these days. I know we're aren't done optimizing the game yet, but I've looking forward to an increase in FPS for quite some time. I'm thinking I should just upgrade my GPU, right now, and start saving for a full PC upgrade to the newest tech in about a year (Christmas 2021). I was considering spending about $400 to $500 right now, but I'm not really sure what would be the best bang/buck ratio. What do you guys think? Any input would be greatly appreciated. If a GPU is suggested, which one is working well with DU these days? I prefer NVIDIA if possible. Below is my current configuration, but if I missed a piece of information that might be more helpful, please let me know. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 AMD FX-9590 8 CORE 4.7Ghz Corsair liquid cooled cpu heat exchanger with 2 forced draft exhaust fans 500GB samsung ssd, sata 6Gb/s, has OS and DU 16GB RAM 64bit win 10 Anyways, thanks for the consideration! VerZalj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sHuRuLuNi Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, VerZalj said: If a GPU is suggested, which one is working well with DU these days? I prefer NVIDIA if possible. Since nvidia, for that money you could get an RTX 2070super, which works great with DU. VerZalj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burble Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 ^^^^ what he said.. I'm running an RTX 2060 super and keeping 60fps most of the time. The 2070 super would be quite a good % better again. You have a faster processor than me it looks like. I'm running 32gb of memory but I think that is overkill. VerZalj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazemonger Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Since the FX-9590 is an AM3+ socket CPU you will not be bale to upgrade to a new CPU on the same motherboard and may need to also update memory when you do upgrade CPU. If you need to save up, right now I'd wait and start with getting. ASUS PRIME X570-P (make sure it is upgraded to at least 2802 BIOS to support Zen3) AMD 5800X (5600X probably fine too but I'd go 5800X) 2x8GB DDR4 3200 RAM Then as money permits add a Nvidia RTX 3060 (or 3070 if you play at 1440p), another 16GM memory and a 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD That would set you up for a good bit of time before you need to upgrade again. VerZalj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerZalj Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, blazemonger said: Since the FX-9590 is an AM3+ socket CPU you will not be bale to upgrade to a new CPU on the same motherboard and may need to also update memory when you do upgrade CPU. If you need to save up, right now I'd wait and start with getting. ASUS PRIME X570-P (make sure it is upgraded to at least 2802 BIOS to support Zen3) AMD 5800X (5600X probably fine too but I'd go 5800X) 2x8GB DDR4 3200 RAM Then as money permits add a Nvidia RTX 3060 (or 3070 if you play at 1440p), another 16GM memory and a 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD That would set you up for a good bit of time before you need to upgrade again. Thank you very much for the detailed reply. I look forward to inputting this into pcpartpicker and saving it for when the time comes. I'm also going to keep this current machine as a second machine (family usage) so slightly upgrading it and having it available won't affect a future, ground-up build. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerZalj Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, sHuRuLuNi said: Since nvidia, for that money you could get an RTX 2070super, which works great with DU. Thank you, but it looks like newegg has those priced around $594+. Just a bit out of this price range. Sorry for also asking for shopping advice, but is there a retailer that your would suggest or is the 2060super is also a good option? Amazon is all over the place with the search results so I'm skipping them for this purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerZalj Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Burble said: ^^^^ what he said.. I'm running an RTX 2060 super and keeping 60fps most of the time. The 2070 super would be quite a good % better again. You have a faster processor than me it looks like. I'm running 32gb of memory but I think that is overkill. If I may, what brand did you choose? It seems like there's a significant variation dependant upon that. Also, do you have liquid cooling for your your GPU? Thanks for the help, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sHuRuLuNi Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, VerZalj said: Thank you, but it looks like newegg has those priced around $594+. Just a bit out of this price range. Sorry for also asking for shopping advice, but is there a retailer that your would suggest or is the 2060super is also a good option? Amazon is all over the place with the search results so I'm skipping them for this purchase. No idea, since you are in the USA, and I am in Europe. Here you can find the 2070super for ca. 400 Euros everywhere. VerZalj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazemonger Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2060super is OK-ish but really no compare to the RTX 3060 which will be coming soon-ish. As price wide the difference will be small I'd certainly go for the 3060. VerZalj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraXXoR Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I’d go for GTX1660 (which is basically a RTX2060 without ray tracing units and is thus cheaper) or wait for the 3060. the 2060 is possibly the worst xx60 card value for money you could go for. blazemonger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomaly Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 We are about to see some heated competition in both CPU and GPU markets. If you can bear to wait a bit, there may be some big price drops coming. VerZalj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerZalj Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 Thanks for all the feedback guys. I feel like I’ll just go for a 1660 now, and plan for a 3060 later, as suggested. Thanks again, 17 hours ago, GraXXoR said: I’d go for GTX1660 (which is basically a RTX2060 without ray tracing units and is thus cheaper) or wait for the 3060. the 2060 is possibly the worst xx60 card value for money you could go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRiker Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I'm planning on ditching my 5 yr old 5960x 8 core/X99 mobo for an amd 5950 16 c/32t. will double from memory form 32gig to 64gig. and get a nice fast pci-e 4 ssd for boot (2-4 tb). I'll keep my intel 750 1.2tb pci-e card as a data drive. will keep my evga xc ultra 2080ti rtx card.. spent way to much on it when they first come out to ditch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazemonger Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 hours ago, VerZalj said: Thanks for all the feedback guys. I feel like I’ll just go for a 1660 now, and plan for a 3060 later, as suggested. Wait for the 3060 to arrive as the pricing will probably be such that it's really not worth it to get a 1660 at this time. Also, I'd really suggest going for a CPU/mainboard/memory upgrade first unless funds are an objection there as that will give you a much bigger performance boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerZalj Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, blazemonger said: Wait for the 3060 to arrive as the pricing will probably be such that it's really not worth it to get a 1660 at this time. Also, I'd really suggest going for a CPU/mainboard/memory upgrade first unless funds are an objection there as that will give you a much bigger performance boost. Thankfully funds aren’t a major concern right now, but I’m planning on building an additional pc / completely new build maybe early next year. So the goal I guess is a I moderate FPS increase with what I have now. Thanks a lot for your time and the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraXXoR Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, CaptRiker said: I'm planning on ditching my 5 yr old 5960x 8 core/X99 mobo for an amd 5950 16 c/32t. will double from memory form 32gig to 64gig. and get a nice fast pci-e 4 ssd for boot (2-4 tb). I'll keep my intel 750 1.2tb pci-e card as a data drive. will keep my evga xc ultra 2080ti rtx card.. spent way to much on it when they first come out to ditch it. 5950 has no benefit for gaming the 5900 can sustain equal or higher clock speeds due to requiring less cooling. So I presume you’ll also be using that rig for CAD or statistical modeling duties, 3D animation or something that requires a $800 cpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraXXoR Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 21 hours ago, Anomaly said: We are about to see some heated competition in both CPU and GPU markets. If you can bear to wait a bit, there may be some big price drops coming. This is the eternal dilemma of patience vs desire. Anomaly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic_fox Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 1:43 PM, VerZalj said: Hey guys, My PC is a not an antiquity, but it's been a few years. I'm wanting to upgrade my current setup a bit and wanted to see if I could get some advice on what gear is working the best with DU these days. I know we're aren't done optimizing the game yet, but I've looking forward to an increase in FPS for quite some time. I'm thinking I should just upgrade my GPU, right now, and start saving for a full PC upgrade to the newest tech in about a year (Christmas 2021). I was considering spending about $400 to $500 right now, but I'm not really sure what would be the best bang/buck ratio. What do you guys think? Any input would be greatly appreciated. If a GPU is suggested, which one is working well with DU these days? I prefer NVIDIA if possible. Below is my current configuration, but if I missed a piece of information that might be more helpful, please let me know. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 AMD FX-9590 8 CORE 4.7Ghz Corsair liquid cooled cpu heat exchanger with 2 forced draft exhaust fans 500GB samsung ssd, sata 6Gb/s, has OS and DU 16GB RAM 64bit win 10 Anyways, thanks for the consideration! VerZalj I cant speak for others but looking at your system i can see your main bottleneck is the FX series CPU. FX series CPUs even the best among them were....and are just bad. So if you have a budget of around $500 id focus on that before anything else. Also as most AM3+ sockets save a few oddball rare ones were ddr3 you will need to upgrade ram in conjuntion with the chip. As such i would grab an AMD 3k+ series chip or if you can find one cheaper an intel 8k+ series chip, though be aware that even if you get an intel chip for cheap there is NO upgrade path later. Then id grab at least 16 gigs of DDR4 2666 ram as this game is a ram hog. After a CPU/mobo upgrade i would then get an SSD to run this game as their fairly cheap now and a pretty large boost in performance across the board. Also while the 970 is aged it is still pretty close to entry level modern chips and is workable if you can deal with meh graphics for now. Though you may be able to pick up a used 1070 or RX590 or even a 1660TI for pretty cheap which will be a good deal better. But yea imo CPU>Ram>SSD>GPU is the upgrade path id recomend to give you the largest gains in performance. If graphics are important just swap the SSD and GPU in that order tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptLoRes Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Right now this moment Ryzen 5000 (Zen 3) CPU and Nvidia 3000 series GPU is the obvious choice. But AMD is just about to release their next generation GPU's so I would put the GPU upgrade on hold until the dust settles (if nothing else there is a chance Nvidia prices will go down, if AMD is able to deliver competitive GPU's). But Ryzen 5600X and 5xx mobo looks like a safe bet. VerZalj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burble Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 2:33 AM, GraXXoR said: I’d go for GTX1660 (which is basically a RTX2060 without ray tracing units and is thus cheaper) or wait for the 3060. the 2060 is possibly the worst xx60 card value for money you could go for. I don't know much about computers internals, all I know is I got a whole new PC setup for a really good price and the 2060 super is kicking hell out of anything I throw at it. It saved me about 150 over what the 3060 would have been and it saved me waiting a few months for the build to get delivered. I'm happy with it. But again, I am no computer wizard, I'm sure you are right. I came from a gtx 760 2gb loaded rig so....feels good. On 11/11/2020 at 12:35 AM, VerZalj said: If I may, what brand did you choose? It seems like there's a significant variation dependant upon that. Also, do you have liquid cooling for your your GPU? Thanks for the help, Nvidia Gforce I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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