Hades Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Anyone know if there are any retailers that offer flashing an unlocked BIOS? Specifically for the MSI 16L13. Just picked one up for a steal of only $700 ^^ However, unfortunately it's running a gimped BIOS... can't play around with the i7 6700k as intended. Retailers I know sell unlocked BIOS on new systems: Eurocom HIDEvolution Places I know I can get an unlocked BIOS: Svet - but his BIOS is tough, with very few protections in place for messing up. I haven't been overclocking for very long, and don't really trust myself with his BIOS. Last resort I suppose Any of you guys know any other places I can try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kael Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Why not just do it yourself? There are plenty of tutorials online. OCing a laptop is fairly pointless, you won't get that much gains from it, but the excces heat will fry an egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BliitzTheFox Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 you really don't want to overclock that, the heat will burn you. The bios likely cannot be safely unlocked; however, you might be able to use one of MSI's utilities to modify the cpu clock and voltage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 you really don't want to overclock that, the heat will burn you. The bios likely cannot be safely unlocked; however, you might be able to use one of MSI's utilities to modify the cpu clock and voltage.The BIOS CAN be safely unlocked, I do not have the expertise however. Unlocked BIOS usually have far more options and safety measures for such behaviour. (Which is why I want an unlocked bios). I will probably just go with Svets bios, as it isn't a hassle to get As for temps... not a problem. Rocking around 70 degrees under heavy load... imagine I can get that to 80 degrees and still be okay. I'm not new to keeping a pc/laptop cool. First thing I did was delid the 6700k and paste it all with grizzly conductonaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 The BIOS CAN be safely unlocked, I do not have the expertise however. Unlocked BIOS usually have far more options and safety measures for such behaviour. (Which is why I want an unlocked bios). I will probably just go with Svets bios, as it isn't a hassle to get As for temps... not a problem. Rocking around 70 degrees under heavy load... imagine I can get that to 80 degrees and still be okay. I'm not new to keeping a pc/laptop cool. First thing I did was delid the 6700k and paste it all with grizzly conductonaut Thing is Fox is right on that. Laptops can't afford to go past 70 degrees, they are not mini-ATX to tolerate the temps and even mini-ATX are stretching it at 70 degrees. Unless you wanna do this for "let's see how long the old girl can last on its final days" kind of thing, I wouldn't suggest pushing 80 degrees on your laptop. That's - at best - a short circuit ready to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Thing is Fox is right on that. Laptops can't afford to go past 70 degrees, they are not mini-ATX to tolerate the temps and even mini-ATX are stretching it at 70 degrees. Unless you wanna do this for "let's see how long the old girl can last on its final days" kind of thing, I wouldn't suggest pushing 80 degrees on your laptop. That's - at best - a short circuit ready to happen. Wrong. http://valid.x86.fr/igp6v8 77 C stable at 5.2 GHZ That's a full GHZ over stock. Perhaps your generic thinnies are built that way, but once you get into desktop replacements... that doesn't seem to be the case. FYI: Most thin gaming laptops run from 80-90 C, unless you undervolt which is impossible on the i7 7700hq without serious tampering afaik. And by heavy load, I'm talking about benchmarks. More citations: GT 73VR stable at 80C: https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT73VR-6RE-Titan-Notebook-Review.172916.0.html Clevo P870dm3 stable GPUs at 90C: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U727-Clevo-P870DM3-G-Notebook-Review.173957.0.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethys Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Gl with your endeavor, tell is how it went. I'm glad I have desktop and no heat problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Gl with your endeavor, tell is how it went. I'm glad I have desktop and no heat problems Haha, me too. That's for sure... interested in how this goes though Sent in a request for Svet's BIOS. Will definitely keep you guys posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Wrong. http://valid.x86.fr/igp6v8 77 C stable at 5.2 GHZ That's a full GHZ over stock. Perhaps your generic thinnies are built that way, but once you get into desktop replacements... that doesn't seem to be the case. FYI: Most thin gaming laptops run from 80-90 C, unless you undervolt which is impossible on the i7 7700hq without serious tampering afaik. And by heavy load, I'm talking about benchmarks. More citations: GT 73VR stable at 80C: https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GT73VR-6RE-Titan-Notebook-Review.172916.0.html Clevo P870dm3 stable GPUs at 90C: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U727-Clevo-P870DM3-G-Notebook-Review.173957.0.html Oh, if it's a spacious laptop for gaming, that changes the case. You didn't provide the links of the original post, so I assumed you were talking on a generic laptop. Also, depends on the processor, it may or may not be worth it to OC it. If it has four cores on it, OC'ing it is an overkill on a laptop. Unless Benchmarks are your fetish, and in that case, go ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kael Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I have an ASUS G750JM gaming laptop and the temps sometimes reach the 85/90C mark and it's designed to run at temps that high (i checked....I was worried!) I see why you want to OC, but as Twerk and everyone else has said, it's fairly pointless....but let us know how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 Oh, if it's a spacious laptop for gaming, that changes the case. You didn't provide the links of the original post, so I assumed you were talking on a generic laptop. Also, depends on the processor, it may or may not be worth it to OC it. If it has four cores on it, OC'ing it is an overkill on a laptop. Unless Benchmarks are your fetish, and in that case, go ahead Oh yeah, no doubt. I don't plan on seeing any real world benefits by overclocking it... especially with a 980m for a GPU The 980m is a bottleneck on stock settings already lol Just want to see what I can do with it ^^ I am actually pretty impressed with the 980m though, deals with a decent amount of gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 Haha forgot to give an update on this, everything went well! I did end up getting Svet's BIOS, and it isn't as sketchy as some people had made it out to be. As long as you're not completely idiotic, there shouldn't be any problems with the BIOS. Play it safe, and all goes well. I also ended up delidding the CPU, as I figured I didn't have much to lose. Not as hard as people make it out to be either. Ended up getting a stable 4.7 ghz @ 1.35V on the CPU and a 1250MHz on the 980m. Anything over that on the GPU and (even though the temps are stable) games seem to get really wonky. Tearing, black screens, etc. Kind of strange, but happy with it all the same ^^ I think it's due to the fact that the power draw grows exponentially crazy with the 980m. It's a power efficient card at low speeds, but once you start increasing it... oh boy. Not sure if the laptop can handle the power draw Looking around it appears that quite a few people were able to push 4.8ghz with an i7 6700k, but I will be content with the 4.7ghz I think. All temps cap out at 80-85C depending on what I'm doing. The surface hardly even gets warm The difference between stock speeds and the overclocking is light and day, can just tell it's a lot more bang. Definitely will go with the MSI barebones whenever I need a new laptop. Considering this thing is already ~2 years old, it stands up pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Haha forgot to give an update on this, everything went well! I did end up getting Svet's BIOS, and it isn't as sketchy as some people had made it out to be. As long as you're not completely idiotic, there shouldn't be any problems with the BIOS. Play it safe, and all goes well. I also ended up delidding the CPU, as I figured I didn't have much to lose. Not as hard as people make it out to be either. Ended up getting a stable 4.7 ghz @ 1.35V on the CPU and a 1250MHz on the 980m. Anything over that on the GPU and (even though the temps are stable) games seem to get really wonky. Tearing, black screens, etc. Kind of strange, but happy with it all the same ^^ I think it's due to the fact that the power draw grows exponentially crazy with the 980m. It's a power efficient card at low speeds, but once you start increasing it... oh boy. Not sure if the laptop can handle the power draw Looking around it appears that quite a few people were able to push 4.8ghz with an i7 6700k, but I will be content with the 4.7ghz I think. All temps cap out at 80-85C depending on what I'm doing. The surface hardly even gets warm The difference between stock speeds and the overclocking is light and day, can just tell it's a lot more bang. Definitely will go with the MSI barebones whenever I need a new laptop. Considering this thing is already ~2 years old, it stands up pretty well. YOU MANIAC xD At 85 to 90 Celsius you bake a soufle over the span of 2 hours, not play games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Baha, that may be so... no problems yet though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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