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Are you asking why DUAL Universe? Well, it looks like I found out by slightly changing the logo!
 

they said you will not get to choose one, because then it would make a way for players to teleport, choosing the one they are trying to get close to.  it was said the plan now is you go to the closest one.
 
Also they have already said that you cant trap someone like this as you will always have the ability to go to the ARC ship as an option like suicide.  
 
What I am talking about is the ability to provide a service and make a profit from it, in a new system/planet that someone would want to spawn at rather than the closest one which might be pretty far. until they get their own built.  If they even decide to build one they might just prefer this service.
 
My original post shows their answer to the question I asked for the AMA event, that they are interested in it.  My point with this post was to open discussions on how to best implement it with out breaking the game.  As NQ stated they were open to discussion about it, which I took as community discussion.
 
They have not specifically stated that you can share these, as the dev blog makes it sound like it is hard coded(flagged) to only you.  Hence why I asked about this int he AMA, 
 
Here is the  Dev Blog on how they work, and yes I understand this is not explicitly stated how they are going to work, but with all their dev blogs, this is what we as players have to go one, and their PLAN on how they plan on them working.  I don't consider a Dev Blog article a vaguely stated way they plan to make them work.
 
The Arc ship one is special as in everyone gets to use it, and it has an almost instant rest timer based on recharge power.  From the sounds of it, the one you build will have a timer based on how much power you send to it, and if it is recharging, then you skip it and go to the next closest one to spawn.

Just want to give a quick update that we are still recruiting, if you want to be a member of THE TRUE original Galactic Republic, dont hesitace to join us here: https://community.dualthegame.com/organization/galactic-republic-of-planets
 
 
Cheers,
 
Comrademoco

No, DAC's should be a permanently immune item from theft. But I propose a counter argument(s) to all of this. Pick and choose pieces of each argument if that suits the outcome better NQ.
 
Make it so that the DAC item is only potent, or usable, on Alioth. Create a NPC on the arkship, that has a inventory for every player, and that is where they can store DAC's for free. Even if theyre potent in the entire universe, at least having a safe storage NPC should be doable? even with the current technical limitations?
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Keep the emphasis of emergent gameplay on the game itself, not on the RMT deterrent, or else we may as well attatch real life value to all the game currency and create a direct money market exchange. Where people can pour real life money in, or withdrawal real life money out, by proxy of the game currency.
 
Well, I propose finding a means to make the Ark Tokens, that are already to be found out in the public, a greater emphasis to turn peoples attention away from DAC's
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On a second move I propose that we can make any variation of limits on the game currency market wallets. Either limits in transferring large quantities of funds, or actual limits on how much money you can hold in the market wallet.
 
By imposing a limit on the wallet, you would force people to convert some of their money into "physical" game goods. Raw ores / refined ores / valuable components. OR we could have an item as suggested by many, gold bars, or any various thing. Let us attach some tags to them, and there we go a viable alternative to the DAC's.
 
I can understand the concern of people having these DAC's out and about in circulation but they're not the magical, end all be all, item a small group of people want them to be. The emergent gameplay is actually just a code word for. I want to be able to steal DACs for game time.
Why cant you steal valuable things, and resell them and buy the DAC's with game currency like everyone else? Not everyone's gameplay styles can be favored over some others?
 
Do people think that because DAC's exist that Ark Tokens, 500,000 tons of raw iron, sneaking into an enemy hanger and hijacking a valuable ship, do they think that DAC's make irrelevant all the other possible emergent gameplay styles? In fact I almost go so far as to think that wrapping the whole game around these DAC's is counter progressive.
It hinders NQ's freedom to develop other interesting features into the game. This is why im opposed to them being a lootable item in play in the game field. Keep them restricted, and keep them just for their intended purpose of anti RMT, account security, and the viable choice for the free to play crowd.
 
We have Ark Tokens, a very valuable item, that must be found by exploring. And we could have other high value items to enable the sort of emergent game play people want. Let us not turn it into a war of real money economics with the DAC's.
 
Keeping the DAC's clean, and creating in game items with greater value than DAC's, will prevent the root fear that many have which is that DAC's can be used by some means to destabilize gameplay.
 
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And above all, I ask of you everyone to let NQ devlop the game in a clean environment. This ruckus that exploded over this is pretty shameful on the community.

Hi. I'm Daphne Jones, managing partner of Hyacinth Partners Ltd. and commander of the Hyacinth. We haul stuff... don't much care what, where, or what the local government thinks of it.
 
Eventually a few folks will prove themselves worthy to crew the Hyacinth... I'm patient. We're not recruiting.
 
See you out there folks

Hello Folks. BohrElias is honored to now be a part of the Dual Universe community.
 
I come from Denmark, as well as my lovely brother Tobias, whom I think calls himself Tander Coxic or something stupid. Nevertheless!
I find this game increasinly interesting, and I hope it is indeed.
I am looking forward to share this experience with all of you.
 
BohrElias

This is pretty straightforward.
 
DAC is a RL cash-equivalent asset. Stealing it is RL theft. Allowing players to steal it would be a criminal activity on the part of NQ.
 
Just say No.
 
Sorry NQ. I got carried away and forgot about the one post rule. After reading through, I stand by what I said.
 
I should add, I don't see what a DAC would be as a physical in-game item or why a character as opposed to a player would want one. They are meta-items by their nature and should be treated that way. 

NQ will be defining the character models. no importing.
 
as the others said on importing creations, 99% no. maybe some small png's or images that we can display on ships, but much like other games if it hinders performance on a large scale im sure theyll kill it.

Hello, thank you very much for joining the forums community. I hope you find the place enjoyable, dont let the trolls get to you.

Must be some error I guess.

Hello everybody, and thank you for let me join you.
I feel the whole project of CINSYN is so fascinating as the very DU game.
Then, glad to be here and see also the leaders of another great organizations I Knew here.
This looks good, and sounds good.

Best regards,
Alsan Teamaro

Nice work Astro it will be alot of fun.
 
Not to mention some of the goals I have in mind...
 
Emberstone, a big city on alioth for embassies, recruitment, markets, noobie pvp, gambling, and so much more.
A shuttle system from Emberstone to several key locations throughout the syndicate at large.
 
Building a ringworld, either a true Huygen style orbital around a planet or possible just some more modest ringworlds, well have to see whats both better looking and practical.
 
Operating and overseeing competetive and organized pvp in various fields. Ground based "battlegrounds", team fights, Team space fights and so forth.
 
Looking forward to meeting new faces, and helping organisations achieve their goals, even if thats to fight each other, but remain friends at the end of the day.

Im still here for you all, but things keep going missing around here. a shipment was due today of urgent medical supplies for kids with a crippling disease from the 10,000 year hibernacle journey... poor kids...
 

 
Come join Cinderfall if you want to help get to the bottom of who keep's taking all the medical supplies and food.

Remember everyone out there. When the good guys that promise you everything turn bad, the syndicate will still be here keeping itself on track, protecting its members freedom, and fighting for whats important you. We'll do what dark things need to be done in order to make your' gameplay the best it can be, we arent pretending to be good guys nor are we bad guys there is just what is the right thing to do.
 
Tired of getting calls in the middle of the night to sign in and fight for some unimportant space rock? Come join the JSDF - Joint Syndicate Defence Force, and help us alleviate this problem. Perhaps you would rather focus on building, well thats fine well have many engineering projects and there are many member orgs who would love to have your help. There's also the magistrate, help keep balance and harmony within and outside of the cinderfall syndicate.
No role inhibits you from living the full experience of any other role, come join up directly or seek out a member org today!
 

a non-du conceptual art by Roberto, non profit usage, check out the artist for yourself http://robertorobert.blogspot.com/

The Aether is beyond the comprehension of us primitives that still linger about the world.
 
They've transcended beyond the mental capacity of most of us. To even be graced by their presence is above what we deserve.

It doesnt do as much good as it sounds for them to be a loot-able item.

I'm going to go against this
 
Unlike in eve, there are no NPC stations to sit them in. theyll exist somwhere in game at all times available to be taken.
 
Everyone makes this sound like it'll destroy the game if you can't steal DAC's from people. I'm not convinced stealing DAC's is useful for the game as a whole. Its simply an interesting mechanic for them, but its not really fair in either direction. DAC's themselves arent particularly fair and making them lootable is just another injustice.
 
Either way is percieved as something not fair. If people with money can buy DACs not fair. If people can't steal DACs somehow also not fair.
I respect NQ's decision to make them non lootable.
 
Why would anyone ever move a DAC, even if its a physical item just use a tag mark it as yours and you are the only one with the right to pick it up, leave it in the Novark field area, and leave. Realized there is technically one safe area.
 
I'm not about strong arming NQ to make decisions or using perceived leverage against them I hope they stick to making choices they believe are logical and not bending because the community clammors for something that is opinion.
 
Great games have been wrecked in both directions, communities asking for questionable mechanics, and devlopers turning their back to community opinion.

Huh, something happened while I was working.
 
Sorry mammoth, everyone is just on edge right now because we've been having a fight over most of these topics for over a month.
 
I accept your desire that you think urging the game into a direction that you want is the right path, but its just one path of many.
 
the technology behind Dual Universe has been in the works from JC Baillie and his supporters for a long time. They aren't going to switch their minds from a Massive game to single shards or split instances.
Most people here as you have seen are fanatical for a true MMO game finally. I'm very excited myself for it.
 
This concern that bad things will happen to people and that's why you want to protect yourself from the world. There are some mechanics in place for that.
 
1.) Finding other players or organisations for safety. There are at least 4 umbrella organisations, a few of them offer mutual protection.
2.) Arkified areas will be player created high security zones, the full workings of how safe and how permanent are a little gray. but they'll exist.
 
Welcome to dual universe, it was an interesting first day for you. As suggested please look around, the Player made FAQ has good quick answers to many questions.
See you around

Cinderfall will be actively working to secure a spot for Emberstone which will be open to everyone unless they start causing a lot of problems like killing people in the streets or attacking buildings, then you'll get marked temporarily to be murdered by the security or any active forces.
 
What you're all bringing up is the basic lack of a fabric of society. That's precisely what csyn hopes to achieve. Well be actively helping noobies even if they go and join orgs which don't back the csyn mission to bring civilization to a lawless universe. As far as conflict, if we remain large or maintain considerable influence well lay down protective measures to guide beginners into the game.
 
If anyone builds around the ark field to try and hamper the newer people there's gonna be conflict. If Cinderfall and the syndicated members and any other friends build defences Around the field it'll probably be to keep the salty vets away.
 
If this is something that concerns you consider jumping into the csyn discord. If protecting organisations and player rights sounds good, we can solve more problems together than worrying about them divided

Well its really well done, do you want to explain in your own words the symbology of the whole thing as you see it in your eyes?
 
good job to the designers / creators.

Well, since I'm starting to become a real included member in this community, I thought I say a few things about myself.
My name is Simon, I'm 20 years old, live and Germany and am currently studying IT, but am looking for a trainee position because university is not for me... Anyway, my hobbies include videogames, coding, fantasy literature and watching My little Pony, my favorite music is metal and Nightcore and in the end I spend way too much time on the internet.
 
EDIT: Also, my love for huge walls and underground shelters that stretch for miles is unrivaled...
 
Simon Volcanov
CEO of the Volcanov Corporation

Band of Outlaws has a new logo, and this time we'll be sticking with it for some time. Since I started BOO, the culture has changed in to something I didn't expect it to, I really feel like we are coming in to our own identity finally and this here proves it. Special thanks to Willie and Blacksythe who helped put this together after listening to me for hours droning on about what I wanted. We may go through a few more iterations of this as time goes on, but the design itself will always be our "face".
 
Also, thanks again to Aetherios for our original logo. While we won't use it as much anymore, I'll always appreciate you lending a hand to me to help get this off the ground whenever much of the community here would of rather scolded me because grr boo. 
 
We have much more exciting news coming out within the next week or two and I can't wait to share it with everyone. 
 
Thanks,
Cybrex

I just got back from the event held in Paris at Novaquark offices. I had to leave a little early, but still, this was quite an awesome evening.
 
I'd like to thank all the team members at novaquark for hosting this event, you guys rock ! 
Quick run down of events for those who didn't attend:
 
- Introduction to the dev build we would lay our hands upon a few minutes later by the man himself: JC Baillie
- Fool around with the dev build previously showcased in NQ videos with some members of the dev team to help us out when needed 
- QA session with JC again
- Little drink with the rest of the team and attendees
 
Where do I start ? 
 
First, we met very dedicated and enthusiastic people at NQ. At no point did I feel I've been fed some PR bull*hit, or that the enthusiasm or willingness from dev to talk about their game was faked.
These guys really want to push themselves to deliver the best possible experience with this project, that's for sure.
 
I viewed JC as a strong leader, with a clear vision for the game, an acute knowledge of the challenges ahead and how to overcome them. From what we've seen from the team, my guess is that this project is in pretty good hands.
 
As expected from a dev build, the control scheme and performance were not ideal, but it ran perfectly. The nice thing is that the game ran on a server, meaning that we had 5 computers running at the same time with people fooling around.
I gotta say, seeing people zooming by in a newly built ship (the first one was built within a couple of minutes), or vandalizing editing those already placed by the devs was really cool.
 
There was a lot to cover during the QA session and little time to answer all the questions, but the community managers who waited for us with the drinks were kind enough to answer all of the remaining questions. Thanks for your golden patience and, again, enthusiasm guys !
 
I'm glad I was able to attend and meet the people behind the project, it really gives another meaning to my backing on KS.
 
Anyways, thanks again guys, and all the best for the things to come !

It doesnt do as much good as it sounds for them to be a loot-able item.

I'm going to go against this
 
Unlike in eve, there are no NPC stations to sit them in. theyll exist somwhere in game at all times available to be taken.
 
Everyone makes this sound like it'll destroy the game if you can't steal DAC's from people. I'm not convinced stealing DAC's is useful for the game as a whole. Its simply an interesting mechanic for them, but its not really fair in either direction. DAC's themselves arent particularly fair and making them lootable is just another injustice.
 
Either way is percieved as something not fair. If people with money can buy DACs not fair. If people can't steal DACs somehow also not fair.
I respect NQ's decision to make them non lootable.
 
Why would anyone ever move a DAC, even if its a physical item just use a tag mark it as yours and you are the only one with the right to pick it up, leave it in the Novark field area, and leave. Realized there is technically one safe area.
 
I'm not about strong arming NQ to make decisions or using perceived leverage against them I hope they stick to making choices they believe are logical and not bending because the community clammors for something that is opinion.
 
Great games have been wrecked in both directions, communities asking for questionable mechanics, and devlopers turning their back to community opinion.

It doesnt do as much good as it sounds for them to be a loot-able item.

I'm going to go against this
 
Unlike in eve, there are no NPC stations to sit them in. theyll exist somwhere in game at all times available to be taken.
 
Everyone makes this sound like it'll destroy the game if you can't steal DAC's from people. I'm not convinced stealing DAC's is useful for the game as a whole. Its simply an interesting mechanic for them, but its not really fair in either direction. DAC's themselves arent particularly fair and making them lootable is just another injustice.
 
Either way is percieved as something not fair. If people with money can buy DACs not fair. If people can't steal DACs somehow also not fair.
I respect NQ's decision to make them non lootable.
 
Why would anyone ever move a DAC, even if its a physical item just use a tag mark it as yours and you are the only one with the right to pick it up, leave it in the Novark field area, and leave. Realized there is technically one safe area.
 
I'm not about strong arming NQ to make decisions or using perceived leverage against them I hope they stick to making choices they believe are logical and not bending because the community clammors for something that is opinion.
 
Great games have been wrecked in both directions, communities asking for questionable mechanics, and devlopers turning their back to community opinion.

Im tired of hearing about emergent gameplay concerning DACs, if you want emergent gameplay, how do you justify DACs existance in the game world? Its a real thing to sell,trade that gives you game time to play. Your emergent play should only care about real game items that you use. All of your arguments to promote the stealing of someone elses game play time are completely ridiculous.
 
I honestly hope they do not go to this play style, and if you guys drop over i wish ypu well in eve where you can do this.
 
I am sick of seeing this community attack the new members, and i am also sick of you all thinking that your idea is the only way this game should work. Guess what, a lot of people dont want to steal a 12 year olds month of game play, and we think it should be protected from scum bags trying to steal it.