ShioriStein

Nice idea... but on the entire game scale ... how ? So if I was force to attack someone like in accident or just to piss off some griefer/troller but they pretend all the time so now after ''often'' being kill I got my avstar delete despite i'm the victim ?!

What define BAD PVP PLAYER ?

If im not wrong, NQ said that you dont have to be friend forever with your hand as new mining way and tool will come as expansion after the game is release. Find source on AMA and dev blog plz im too lazy (on phone ) to find for you.

@dw_ace_918 It is rule of civilization. It must be and will be but i dont know how will it go since it is a game where people just stop playing or keep playing that all.

Umu i can understand some of your point. You are right all the org power will be into the hand of those who create org from foundation so the people who join later will have "less" power. But i think if the need arise people , who prefer democracy, will join together to create an org where everyone is legate. But as you say we "maybe" only see it in the mid of the game when people tired of dictator so they will join together but we never know when. So you have a right point here but, truth is in long term i dont see any way better than what we know right now.

Okay i will try to not misunderstand you. So you mean you want to create a democracy (which people will choose their own road ) org to vote for every matter include elect president right ? Okay basically it can.

What do you mean? It isnt a "personal org" , dont wrong about create org on website and create org in game. NQ already said create org in game will subject to RDMs and different than create org on website, and future they will add it later but now it isnt. Well this everyone want include me. But first we have to have a good foundation. This part make me some confuse. Forum is a place for you to discussion, you can choose to practice or not. And about org, you dont have to, you can play solo or create your own, anything is possible Well so terrible i'm sorry, but if my tone sound like bullied you i'm sorry. Because after all i'm not native English speaker so i only choose the simple word i can use to chat. So in the end what is bothering in your mind ? Just telling here and i also with some great guy will help you to understand it.

I'm using phone so cant give you link, but you can search for RDMs ,it say pretty clear there. NQ already give you tool for democracy already. It called 'legate'. If it is dictator, legate will be set for one player or only a group to vote for the way of the org to go. If you want democracy, just legate everyone in org, everyone will have vote power. Then they can vote to choose who will be President/Prime minister/Leader of the org and give specific command which only that 'tag' can give without voting (they should talk about that decision before execute because if it angry major of member they can vote to demote or exile you ). So I dont know what you want now for a system already in game.

i would like some hard for the attacker with auto defense. You know grifer ( or 'so much free time' player ) will attack to activê the bubble just for fun. So auto defense well might not so optimize way to defense your base but good way to chase away those troll/griefer

I can image it is a race of skill tree now =]] Cheapest way to hide before your enemy: paint your ship BLACK.

There isnt any flag should be in here i think. In lawless land you can kill anyone you want, in claim territory you have to follow the RDMs but owner of that territory basically I think still can kill you but different is you cant kill them unless declear war or raid ?!

there isnt any penalty in game when you kill somebody. Only consequence after that you have to deal with. Like : You and your friend kill someone that wander around but that person is some big guy in a big org. Now they will come to revenge and swarm your base. And a lot of situation will arise as a chain for each your action because we are all player in game, you cant predict the outcome. All the left is like Lethys andCoreVamore and Nanoman said.

at least it is better than when launch =]]

source ?

I would like to see "prototype" in a game sandbox mmo like DU then. Trial and error will be a thing in DU, it make more sense and advanced for veteran.

Anyone notice that forum these day is sloww than months ago ? Anyway i'm sure i'm the last here, dont bother to reply me.

Well we should have some job for new bro come in. Just like a FORCE tutorial because i think not everyone will use tutorial.

Yeb do agree, i have thought about it but forget to add it in balance. Nobody want to log off to see next morning you cant acess to your base. It create Rage feeling so your word is true. Ah you say right, name of the poor man with ( hacked ) tag on it. I dont want create drama and innocent being guilty for what they not done =.= too.

summary : we wont got fps combat. reason: + Server cant hold it, especially in 1000+ player combat. + Not worth. Combat is an aspect not the main. + Lag. Lag kill us all.

IF there is something in the head, it lead the way. Also you dont even need the "chip" in head to get the information as technology is future now.

That right, your word is true if i read carefully. It will create a lazy way "and" more dangerous way as you easy to be expose. What i say here yeah that right still need more "balance" and also create a more way of game play not delete the other also not blind to "go to only mmo role play spy only". What i want to show here is a another way to be spying and do thing, and of course what cons of it will be add to balance it out. What sense you want to see in an Science Fiction game ? What i just say is follow the lore of the game, remember inside every new come at Alioth have something right ? And from what "people will say" it is 500 year of development and people cant see what is in our head ? It just data like computer but need decode . Right now people are start to research about how to see memory in the brain and you say it is non sense ?

Huh what about planet spin. I remeber NQ say it will spin(this is reason why we will not have space elevator ) but not rotate around the star.

As i say, it doesnt and hard to create troll, are you reading first part then stop the mid part and read the last part ? did you ? Only if you can take "body of high rank people" . It mean high rank people have to think more careful than low rank people as they hold big power of the guild. Also give everyone the responsibility to protect their high rank and retake the body of high ranking. I really see someone as commander get on a fighter and left the fleet fight on their own while they go out there and bam bam. Give that i can only fake a "miner" tag so now how can i create drama and troll ? As i say this skill is specific mean take long time to reach. I really dont know who really spend one year, 2 year or many month to just get this skill and troll people as it is specific mean you cant train other skill as well. And also i want to create a specific job as spy not someone who skill in miner and take the role as spying as they create another character to infiltration. Also it will create another job as "detective" =.= =]]. And also i think the best way to prevent "some intruder" is that showing their tag/role as their tag now got the name of other but their appear name is different. So i will say that it not NQ or drama some shit. It all depend on the player to protect themselve from intruder not to "create another character to infiltration" . Create a check point and check their name - tag/role name.

Well i think i have not say clear here, in the name of other meaning : Recording of doing and interact in the record system of org ( which NQ have say to control if anyone interact or "take stuff" without permission. So in the name of other is mean record in the system of "ORG" is the name of who you fake. Like if Jona fake John who hold high ranking in A Org, then Jona steal stuff, turn off defensive system, declear war ... The system inside Org which to record anyone interact or do anything will be the name of John. And of course NQ as admin can still see the true who did it. And one again i have said: It doesnt fake your name appear so you cant threatened someone via private chat. If you use Org chat ( which i think it shouldnt too) it will be in the name of org , Ex: Declear war.

Okay if this idea is else please forgive me because i search anything i can about this but found nothing so i think i should make a topic about it. Okay like the topic say my idea about a system to fake someone tag/role in a org. I know you guy will say that this system will somewhat be abuse or exploit but please let me explain about how it "should working in my thought". Fake someone tag/role: It is that give player ability to fake someone tag/role so that we can use it to spy , sabotage, steal , ... it will open a whole new gameplay and make the player to think more carefully about what they are doing and going. How to fake: About how can we fake other i suggest this ability is a special skill which is a branch of skill tree and that branch will take long time to reach, for those who want to be specific job like spy. How to fake tag/role is that they must have to stay near a body (dead body should be to prevent some exploit ? or shouldnt ) so that they active this skill then there will be a fake tag/role item in their inventory which they can then active that item to be fake that tag/role which that person holding in an organization to bypass the RDMs system. Potential exploit: People will spam it whever they want and also it create a new thing for griefer and troll doing. Also it will give some player rage that their system RDMS has been bypass and they lost everything. ... Way to deal, balance thing: My thought how to balance it is: some limit on this to prevent troll like any other thing that need limit. + Timer: There will be a duration for the fake tag/role, this duration can be increase via skill tree but just a little more ? And also a cooldown so you dont imedially use another fake item after previous one expire and spam it in short time. + Limit choose: So one person can be in lot of org so that, due to some memory and thing after dead so the skill only can see some of latest role they are taking before dead ( like i have 5 role in 5 org, now i dead but skill of other too weak so it only see the latest 3 role i i'm taking include role nobody (which role of yourself) so they can only choose one of the latest 3 role that ) and then can only chose one to fake. After that you cant take any role/tag from that body. But i suggest with the progress of the skill the percent of total role you can see to take is increase to the point is 100% or 80 90 ... + Limit use: One body, only one fake can extract from it. My thought how to counter/deal: + Skill prevent: This is special skill or counter skill, it will decrease the role which other can see to fake. Like decrease 20% of total role they can see, so if other can see 70% total skill of your, they will be decrease 20% of 70% or 70% now to 50% but that is just my thought. + Because it fake your role/tag doesnt mean it fake your name. It only fake the work you are doing in the name of other. + Dont get kill: It work every time. Profit of this system: Create more way to play and infiltrate into other base. Imagine your defensive system sabotage right middle of a conflict. You will got ability to doing some stuff that damage that org but in the name of other ( name of who you extract your fake item ). And from what it done the damage maybe huge or low like declare war to friendly org but that i think wont damage much but it easy to make the reputation gone hell. Create new tatic, now who hold important role must be carefully to not get your body into the hand of the enemy. So if someone important die that org who have that person high in rank must send a team to recover the body or make sure that body doesnt give the enemy advantage.