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TheMasterArchitect

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  1. Just an update on steam recruitment. This is what I usually am up to.
  2. For people new to running organizations I honestly think it's good for them to use larger groups as examples, especially if they have no prior experience and they have big ambitions. When I started my organization I looked how the larger organizations were running to see what I could expect from the game, then I took even more inspiration from real governments, such as as the Japanese to build my structure while keeping in mind projected member count and what could be applied to in game. Some of the stuff may be removed as more info comes out from DU. I think alot of these organizations are creating a rank structure for their projected member count. Even as they start off small alot of people want to be very ambitious. The question is, will they be able to accomplish it? Getting off track into other groups and not actual recruitment methods, yes there are large communities out there such as TheXPGamers who intend on playing in DU but who knows how much effort they will put into the game. There are some things that NQ won't be able to effect as far as group ranking structure goes. Who's in charge of building, designing, military, politics, etc. So we can still create an effective structure at the moment and just re-work it as the game get's closer to release and more information is passed down to us. Contrary to what you are saying that people wanting to "Have their own little kingdom" could be a bad thing, I feel it's much the opposite. There's a ton of diversity in DU and the universe is quite large. If everyone was a follower then we could see less creativity in the game go on. I personally would like to see as many groups as possible try to build up. It brings a competitive feeling to the game as groups will want to build larger ships, crews & cities.
  3. This is a great point to bring up for people starting groups without anything to bring in. It does certainly feel like a part time job at some points and I came from a large community with at least 30 members willing to signup right away with me. Like I said earlier in my post, for me to be successful and fast at recruiting quality players, it usually takes around 2 hours a day on average to recruit just 1-3 members. And that doesn't count the other time I put into planning and getting content made for the group. Good point
  4. Understood xD. Hopefully this helps some people with some recruitment though.
  5. It really depends on the discord your going to. Say it's some sort of space engineer discord with around 50 members with no advertisement section whatsover, then I would talk to the admin.
  6. Greetings Everybody! I am writing this post today in hopes of inspiring you all to recruit respectfully and efficiently. As of late I have been targeted for bad recruitment practices so I'd like clear my name of all that. Before getting into recruitment I would like to say there are some steps to increase your groups reputation, which in turn will increase your chance of having a successful recruitment session. 1. If you have a Dual Universe supporter pack then the first thing you want to do is create an organization page over at https://community.dualthegame.com/organizations 2. Setup a group discord and BE ACTIVE on it. When a member sees you being active in your group, doing events and working hard to build up your organizations then they will want to be part of the group even more. 3. Create some content. If you've never made videos or artwork I would recommend taking some time and learning a little bit so your group can have some content to attract players (or you can ask some of your members for help, you'd be surprised at the level of creativity of some of your members). For the best example I would look at the Band of Outlaws organization page. They do a lot of parody work but it's still successful in reaching out to players and enticing them to join their organization. These are just steps you cant take to make your group more attractive. Try to be creative and I'm sure you can come up with more ways to make your organization appealing. Now getting into recruitment practices... There are several different sources you can go through when recruiting. In this post I'll be covering each area of recruitment that you can go through, as well as, describing how you should be getting your message across in a positive manner. Dual Universe Forums This is probably the most obvious method of recruitment. When recruiting from the forums there are two things you can do. One is to create an attractive post for your organization and the other is to message new members to the community individually. Make sure that when you create your forum post, you make your group's intentions clear and attractive as possible. When you message someone try not to bombard them with too much information, but give them enough to have a quick overview of the organization and the best way to contact you. What you DON'T want to do while finding new members is to message people that are already part of existing organizations. Always check the players profile and ensure if they are part of a group or not. Even check their past posting history. You might be looking at an old post that's been bumped so always be on the lookout. If you do happen to message someone that was part of an organization by mistake and they respond to you, just apologize and try to move on. Discord Recruiting from discord can be very tricky and disrespectful if the place your recruiting from doesn't know about it. If you find a discord community the first thing you want to do is check if they have an advertisement section. Always read and abide by their rules. If they don't have an advertisement section then message the discord server's admin about your intentions and see if it's ok to do recruitment from his/her community. Try to offer incentives so that they will agree to it. You can ask them to trade players, if their discord is for example a Rust community then tell them that if you have any Rust players that you will send them your way and they should do it vice versa. Maybe even offer something of monetary value if you think it's worth it. But I want to say I don't recommend doing that. In my experience I have not been super successful at discord recruitment but maybe you guys can do it better than me. If your going to message members individually then make sure the server admin knows that and DO NOT send a spam recruitment messages. When messaging someone about recruitment always start a conversation, "hey, how are you?" and then gradually proceed to talk to them about your intentions. Steam Groups The first thing you want to check of course is your friends list. Check any past communities you've been apart of or talk to some old friends. Some of them might be interested in joining up with you. Other than that, your best bet is to check steam groups that have connections to games with similar aspects to Dual Universe. My military is ran by Arma 3 Milsim guys so I regularly check out several Arma 3 Milsim steam groups. That and other games that has similar aspects to Dual Universe such as Rust, Ark, Space Engineers or Empyrion. Now alot of these groups literally have tens of thousands of members so there really isn't a shortage of people to contact. What you want to do is start sorting through profiles that are interesting to you. I have my own criteria of contacting people and you guys should make your own as well. Try to add as much people as you can when going through the steam group member lists, but I suggest only contacting people who are online at the moment. Whenever I add someone I usually give them a nickname (for example, "Space Engineer Player - 03/31"). I use nicknames because if someone eventually adds me, I want to remember where I added them from and if they don't add me in two weeks then I just delete them. You also want to be using "Steam Tags." This will help you separate your actual steam friends from people who you are contacting for recruitment. Just give them a "recruitment" tag after they add you. Now once people start adding you back, you want to start messaging them. ONLY message them when they are online, not in Snooze or Away mode (it might annoy some people). You want to do recruitment as respectfully and efficiently as possible. So I suggest that when you message someone you start off by saying something like "Hey, how are you?". Then you will get either a positive or a negative response, you know how steam players are . If they respond in a positive manner then tell them you have an offer and that you are hoping that they could hear you out. Then proceed to tell them about the game and your group. If they aren't interested then tell them thank you for listening and to have a good day. After that just remove them from your friends list. If someone responds to you in a negative manner then try to twist it around in your favor to make them interested. If that doesn't work then once again delete them from your friends list. I usually add around 20-50 people whenever I do a recruitment session. You'll probably get a 20% friend acceptance rate and out of that you'll get 20% that might be interested. That's just what it feels like from my experience. I also want to recommend upping your steam profile. If they see that your profile is an empty page and your messaging them about an offer then they might take it as a scam. Whereas if you have a decent looking and respectful steam profile with some artwork then they may listen to your offer. Reddit/Other Communities Now I only did reddit once so I can't help you be too successful at this, but I can tell you just be respectful of any place that you may recruit from. Try to go into subreddits that can somehow relate to Dual Universe. Read the rules and make sure your posting in the right place. The same goes for any other forum/community that you may recruit from. Always read up on the rules and if there aren't any then try to contact the admin. When I do go hard on recruiting I usually spend around 2 hours a day recruiting on steam and talking to people about the game while at the same time being as respectful as possible. If your trying to recruit a lot of people then you'll have to spend a lot of time on recruitment. If your building a small group then I just suggest sticking to the Dual Universe forums and see what you can find here. There's tons of time before the game get's released so if you just want a small group then waiting and contacting people on here every once in a while might be your best bet. Thanks everyone for reading. I hope this clears up any confusion and hopefully the group that is actually ruining recruitment for everyone can follow these guidelines. Have a great day!
  7. Thanks to Grand Admiral Archangel I am please to announce the completion the Cadet Manual for the New Genesis Space Corps. This guide is meant to give every NGSC cadet the information they need for a baseline understanding of spaceborne combat, military decorum, procedure and the expectations of every soldier in the NGSC https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hWRpfOgc_8VTUf6C0H4wHXkjhJjFDuFYBiVXesRJVFY/edit
  8. Hola y bienvenidos a Dual Universe no hay mucho gruopos que hablan espanol aqui. tienes un discord para su clan?
  9. Regardless of experience numbers can be a winning factor if the media figure decides to do things right. CaptainShack from TheXPgamers already has 300,000 subscribers and a large twitter following as well. You think your small group will be able to compete with that? He is already a gold founder and has a group here in case people didn't know. Nonetheless I am thinking that the orgs out here need to put more work into recruiting & planning for game release. Will take alot of work to get your organization to compete with those large numbers but some dedication and focus will make it achievable.
  10. I think that the definition crusader can be interpreted in different ways since the vocabulary of it is changed depending on the circumstance and pretense that its being used in. You are going on the notion that am I am referring to actual crusaders during Europe's medevil era but the definition I am using comes from this: "a person who campaigns vigorously for political, social, or religious change; a campaigner." We could even say that we are "religious campaigners" according to this instance. I don't know if English is your first language but the word can be manipulated or changed depending on the context you use it in. With that being said I am still moving forward with my groups theme nonetheless. It's popular for Imperium of Man in 40k. I used to play as Orks in the 40k tabletop so I have some experience with the lore of 40k Imperium of Man.
  11. Nah we will have our own mythical beings that we follow. I like the idea of having gods in the group. I came from Conan Exiles and really liked choosing between gods over there (crom, mitra, set, ect.). That's where my inspiration of starting a Godly group comes from. We won't be christians or what have you but we are creating our own story for it. I wouldn't consider bringing in any actual religion into the group. Were not like these Nihilists that you speak of. Possibly we are more similar to the Tau of Warhammer 40k but in a non aggressive manner. So if crusaders is something that bothers people what would you call us then? We are still a group that pushes forward in the name of our gods. I thought that's what a crusader is all about. Fighting in the name of your god.. I am not religious at all but all religions have had "crusader" moments in history, including muslims. Not sure if you were implying that they werent but it seemed like it so I wanted to point that out.
  12. I'm creating lore for my own group. Maybe I can tie it in somehow to the DU cultures. My group's theme is that we are crusaders fighting in the name of our gods and trying to build the ultimate utopia. For now I don't see it fitting in with any of these groups. I come from mainly games with role play involved so I would like to involve the lore into my group.
  13. https://community.dualthegame.com/organization/emporium-corporis https://community.dualthegame.com/organization/galactic-emporium These two groups that I'm talking about are the ones that seem like they are following the lore.
  14. Any groups related to this? I have found two groups named "Emporium" on the DU organization page. They slightly seem to be connected to the lore. Does anyone know if the groups are connected or not?
  15. https://dualuniverse.gamepedia.com/Weapon_Unit The gamepedia for dual universe suggests there will be weapons. found an old post from the community manager as well on this ___________________________________________________________________________________________ There's currently no plan to create a voxel editor to develop character weapons. At the moment, character weapons are planned to be mesh-based, and defined by developers. The Dev team has already a lot on her plate with our current goals. Maybe far in the future, but we can't promise anything for now. Best regards, Nyzaltar. ___________________________________________________________________________________________
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