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  1. Arrh yes, Neil Degrasse Tyson. The mad who said SpaceX will fail, electric cars won't be a thing. No point in going to mars! That last one maybe an exaggeration. The man who is more an actor than a scientist, is being quoted by non other than Blazemonger looool ive enjoyed our time and I'm honoured. if you do find a better way, do stop on by and let us know ✊??☝️?✌️
  2. Starting to think you were dropped or something. I've mentioned a few times now both are my accounts. To clarify, xlDvSlx and DvS_uk are both my accounts (for all those) I don't need to give my reasons, just know there was a mistake on my part. But I do have access to the alpha, granted not on this email address. There has to be a better way. Do you know what that better way is Blazemonger?
  3. Knew you had it in you X but do try and keep up JC has said territories will be expensive to craft. If you can simply buy them with real life money, you're skipping a massive grind. Broken. Again you can dream up a number of scenarios where this could be good or bad. But the fact is, it's possible Again we keep on going in circles with scenarios. The underlined fact is, you can spend real life money to get an advantage, how ever big or small. Whether it's a time advantage, player advantage, it doesn't matter. It's an advantage, = p2w. In a post I said if they make skins that can be brought and blend into something, it's pay to win. That video was the one where it all clicked together, not to mention I've been watching and reading a bunch over the last weekend, because the fooking servers won't up I like how you've gone from, 'not a single argument/fact' to a 'sensible argument lol you're all over the place today mate, because I'm a funny guy I won't take the mik out of your multiple personalities lol
  4. Ahh yes, the good old cult withdrawal. Is that Andrew Yang riding that horse by any chance?
  5. Taking things out of context again lol how low delusional people will sink to defend what they believe. I didn't mean literally, but their/your argument needs to be shot down imo. Some of you can't even bring yourselves to admit it's a pay to win model. Boggles the mind As a matter of fact you've added absolutely nothing to this topic. Everything that has been discussed here is in video form (made by NQ them selves) hardly a banable offence. Without any proof!! Why are you lying for and contradicting yourself in the same post! You say I have no proof, yet you go on to say I'm right and might call victim because I've called out their p2w model if I get banned. I told you once if you can't keep up, don't step up. You're sounding like an idiot right now. Which I guess goes without saying because you're clearly in favour of pay to win I've stated a number of times it's pay to win because of 'reeee reee reeeeeee' of which at least 3 people have confirmed. You being the forth. Care to add anything productive to this conversation/argument/campaign to remove pay to win?? If not, keep it moving.
  6. I remember JC saying you can earn your subscription through game play, I don't remember him ever saying it'll be directly through a p2w mechanic.. untill I saw that video I posted on my very first post. Again, thousands of scenarios can play out. It's but pointless to try and list them all. You mention talents to counter the P2W mechanic they've implemented. I hate to go back to scenarios, but what if 2/3/4/5/6 orgs decide to battle it out for dominants for a planet. They will use there DACs to buy anything and everything they feel as though they need. It's not rocket science, if the game is PvP and people can buy an advantage, they will!!! This has been proven time and time again. Hence why they've even changed their game mechanics to allow for this filthy P2W model because they know it will be crazy profitable as soon as orgs start to go to war. Not to mention all the lazy scumbags who will just buy their quanta so they can do what eva they deem fun. No. We should have all the same grind, all the same possibilities etc etc without spending more money. Actual game effecting stuff. Which this clearly is. If some1 wants to have a cat or dog following them around everywhere, that's fine.. from a PvP point of view, that's pay to lose.. which I happen to be all for BigEdge tried to brush over the fact too, with the whole Talent thing, but once you have a well organised group of people, this mechanic will prove to be broken. Of that I have 0 doubts. But 1 DAC will help the economy out way more (I hear a misguided fool scream!!) Why is that? If anything, mentioning the talent system has made me double down. They've actually changed in game mechanics to try and make p2w acceptable. Woooooow How scummy.
  7. Can appreciate the long replies. Still I see defending p2w with no recommendations of a better system I don't know how you've all been conditioned into thinking DACs are alright. P2w should not be a thing in this game. I will campaign passionately against this mechanism of that you can be sure. One does not wait 4 years patiently only to find out this game will be a money grab upon lunch. I will take my review to YouTube and the like once the NDA is lifted. I will still give the beta to my friend but I will tell him straight this game is pay to win I may sound condescending because I am. Any1 defending p2w needs to be shot down. Ruthlessly. I wonder how JC would defend this p2w model.
  8. Laughed way to much on that first part. I see what you're saying. I'll give an example, let's take Star Wars battlefront 2 before the rework. The star cards don't directly win you the game, sure you still have to aim down sight, actually look at an enemy. But they give you a clear advantage. Sure you can earn these cards in game, but the grind is ridiculous.. swaying you to perches the cards DU could be similar if not addressed now. But in this case, blueprints, marital, labour etc etc will be the indirect 'win' all of which would take hours, if not days/weeks or even months. With this in mind, you could argue NQ have made the mining process tedious just to get you to go to the market.
  9. You have agreed you can benefit in game by buying DACs. Agreeing it's pay to win. BigEdge came right out and said but also put it in a way, where it's the nicest possible pay to win model he's ever seen. Venstix has called it P2W. Why, because it's pay to win loool We can go in circles about scenarios, like what would happen if 2/3/4 massive orgs decide to fight it out, and they find themselves a few ships short. Reeeee reeeeeee reeeeee. You're glossing over the fact it's P2W, not suggesting any better implications. And shockingly trying to justify pay to win. I'm baffled by some of you people. The fact that you're willing to except this so easily tells me you already think the game will flop. In which case I salute you for supporting novaquark financially
  10. Blazemonger. I've given examples and reasons a few times. We've already come to the conclusion it's pay to win. Not full blown, could always be worse but it is in fact a pay to win model.. if some1 is flying a massive ship, and some1 can think ' I wonder how many DACs he sold to build that' is even possible.. it's pay to win Venstix put it pretty well Any1 can edit a conversation to match their bias. You JCs alt account? Lool But seriously, if you can't keep up don't step up x I forgot to mention when I say, I hear, I mean I've watched a Dev blog or read on the forums somewhere. I didn't mean to suggest they're swimming in it right now but they can afford to develop the game as it is right now. That's just subscription alone, and at first is where they will have a high player count because it's a new release (advertising, marketing etc etc) also the cosmetics they can bring in, server technology can be sold in some form. On launch I'm pretty sure the player count will be over 100k. Money is the least of their worries right now. Getting the players and making the servers better are priority I imagine! Hence the NDA imo. Subscription and p2w will be dead on arrival as soon as it gets worded like that. Again subscription is fine, it will keep the riff raff like my good self out, for the most part
  11. Not all the 20m, they don't owe me and most likely you anything, they've basically delivered on their promise in my eyes for the most part 50k paying £10 a month is half a million a month. Just pure subscription alone. That's low balling imo (player wise). They could lone out their engine like epic games does. Cosmetic. Sponsorships, etc. They could pay back 20m in 2 years if they went hard imo. The technology alone is worth more than that I'm willing to bet. I would like to see the valuation of NQ come to think of it
  12. yes its my account, i explained it earlier. im ok with subcription, no problems there. im not ok with DACs being 100% pay to win. dont confuse the 2, like subcription can only be implemented with a p2w model the game is already paid for, they got way more than they needed to make this game, thats a fact. so at the very least, they could show some respect and not have a p2w model. i dont know if eve was a kick starter and i dont really care. what i do care about is how this game will turn out. these fourms are gathering dust and theres current less than 50k backers. do you really want this to stagnate at our current numbers? did anyone actually argue this? Please dont speak for the entire games population. i assure you not many players would agree to a p2w model.
  13. 'Emotional noise' lol what kind of robot are you? What makes you perches most the things you own, mate? It's an emotional subject for some, and a subject that shouldn't be taken lightly. So I'm sorry if you don't want to read through all the rubbish, to establish we both know what we're talking about. To the point of order: no. I write how I write and people speak how they speak. Ask Ben Goertzel. I've never wrote 'oi mate' but I get your point. Thanks for being smart. On your request. Disclaimer, I'm but a humble plumber who knows only but modest layman terms. 1.yes for this kind of thing, 100% 2. Yes, but if 'skins' can blend in, it's P2W 3. Yes, if real money can influence the game, to give one an advantage of any sort, to what ever end. It is in fact pay to win. To give a gist of my logic. Glad to know you speak for all of DU. I've given a basic reference to why I think eve isn't a good example. 1. It's player base is tiny, 35k concurrent players isn't amazing and goes to show just how obsessed their playerbase is. If you look at the economics 2. It's biggest news story is how it's players lost over 1million in real world money in a lag fest they call the biggest online battle ever.
  14. I'm sorry I cant agree. 50k players paying £10 a month is more than enough to fund this game. Cosmetic, server technology etc etc. They will kill it in the financial field. Why can't they just make DACs in-game, that can only be perched with in-game currency?? Still making it social because people can still trade and sell and people will still have the possibility to play for free.. if they can be bothered. They only people winning in the eve model are the investers and director and maybe some managers. A possible bonus maybe for the employees if a few Wales got addicted to buying DACs. Greed and wanting more money is the reason why this system has prevailed in the development. Eve is a terrible example imo. One guy said it's been dead since 2005. Just because it's up and running for 15years doesn't paint a full picture. I've been player Bushtarion for 15years and the player count is down to less than 100, would I want to copy it or improve upon it? I'm stuck at greed if this gets implemented They've already raised over 20m. Show some gratitude and keep all pay mechanics out of the game. It's not hard
  15. I see what you're saying and it does make sense. If the game was free to play, I could back something like it. How many revenue streams would they have? So straight up monthly subscription low ball 50k players, cosmetics, advertisement and probably more I can't think of. You could argue it's a matter of volume. £20 would be hard to justify, even to a 50k playerbase. They need to do better. Eve is dead and is a niche game. DU is FPS mmo that could do waaay better. They need to realise their potential and not get greedy. No bullshit p2w. Consumer friendly model and they'll have hundreds of thousands of regular subscribers. Milking the cow will not work in 2020 I'm telling you. People are ready with pitch forks waiting for stuff like this Me being one of them!!
  16. ok i went wrong with no3. i was under the impressions the bots are only here for beta/alpha. making it not so bad, i wont lie. still pretty damn bad though. I highly recommend they do away with that, because someone can get rich by doing nothing but spending money.. which allows them to buy anything off of the market and hire people to do their bidding. all things like that should be earned the good old fasion way. has to be a better way. 1. makes sense. so instead of going to the market, you can barter with people directly with these dacs? so my understanding is pretty sound, and this does infact fall under the p2w category. I dont know what they should replace it with, but it needs replacing imo i wont be supporting that, and after my 3 coupons are done im out. cant believe this isnt spoken more about and you all just sat down and took it on a plate. too good to be true. 2 years after predicted lunch announcing it'll be 4years after predicted launch. my alarm bells are well and truly ringing. pushing the technology is great tho, so im still happy i brought the alpha but i wont be able to recommend this on launch if they keep it as it is, which im 100% sure they will because its a money maker.. and well, thats all that matters!!! am i right!
  17. I see! Sorry I miss read your comment about 'the other guy (alt maybe)' loool horribly miss read. so tell me where I'm going wrong and don't understand the system. lets keep it real simple like. Simple yes if I'm right and a no with an explanation why I'm wrong 1.Dacs are brought out of game, with real life money, that will be visible in your in game characters inventory? 2.Dac can be used there and then to give you in-game time (a 1 month) or sold in the in-game market for in game currency? 3. At first the only way to get in-game currency is through selling DACs?
  18. there's no mistake been made on my part. infact youve comfimed what ive said on a couple of occasion. hell i even stand by backing this game. at least ill get a year without the cancerus p2w model. if what you said is to be believed. frankely you havent countered my arguments either, all im reading is bahh bahh
  19. Loool yes, because clearly I was talking like 2 different people. If you must know, my phone and pc are on 2 different emails, I thought that's why my discord NDA hasn't been lifted. That turns out not to be the case. You've tried to justify p2w with childish insinuations that No1 will play with me. I'm calling out a major issue, with the aim to get something better. If you're happy in your little cult with a 50k player base. Carry on mate. Shocking if you're the best voice DU have. I'm calling troll and expect a NQ staff to confirm this.
  20. Unfortunately I don't know how to quote property. In that example it doesn't help much, but still helps and brakes immersion. Early game is where it will be the worst imo. Non the less, it's still pay to win. The simple fact RL money can effect game play is unacceptable. If news reviewers like YongYea get wiff of this, it's GG. Believe me I don't want that to happen. I've been following DU on and off since the 2016 E3 pitch. Again you just keep on glossing over. I'm not sure if you've been in a productive argument before.. instead you continue to play these school games. I hope you have many people to play with. Again. The Dac will be in your inventory, so not so much 'right away' or 'boom' Apperently you're the one who cant see further ahead. And frankly are sounding like a cult. Loool 'WAY' more expensive. It's £3 mate. Your bias is clearly clouding your judgement. I guess fools and their money really are easily parted. So for an extra £3 (if you buy in bulk) you can pay for peasants to mine for you. I'm sorry but I can no longer take you seriously.
  21. Actually you know what. I'm cool with it. Loooooooool (Joking)
  22. Also slavery could even be a thing! Someone could offer a poor soul a 1month for 1/2weeks labour!!! Loool
  23. Posted a scenario not so long ago. *Imagine now you have the sweatyest bunch of programmers all earning 60k plus a year. 3months into the game it all kicks off. They think fuck this, go market and buy a stupid amount of DACs. Offer any1 and everyone stupid smart deals, to get hold of blue prints and materials. You now have gone from needing 100+ active men, to about 10 Broken. This was just the first example that came to mind. You know full well what I mean
  24. I can appreciate it's a business as well as a games company. Like JC himself has said, 'innovation isn't cheap' The fact is, they've raised enough money to fund this games development. The subscription model alone will continue to 'support' them and turn out a profit. They plan on adding cosmetic which will also bolster their profits. All of which I have 0 issues with. What I have an issue with and draw the line at, is when RL money can effect game play. All I'm saying is there has to be a better way. They've recruited some of the best talent, even some from Eve. Sort it out and get this business/p2w bullshit out of the game
  25. Hardly an argument you're making to be blunt mate.. It is a pay to win model because you can benefit in game with real world money. I know there's no end game as such, but the model falls under the category of pay to win. There is no arguing that FACT. Imagine now you have the sweatyest bunch of programmers all earning 60k plus a year. 3months into the game it all kicks off. They think fuck this, go market and buy a stupid amount of DACs. Offer any1 and everyone stupid smart deals, to get hold of blue prints and materials. You now have gone from needing 100+ active men, to about 10 Broken
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