Leppard
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17 hours ago, Hazaatan said:
You, and all the other 'no wipe', are just trying to protect your ill-gotten gains
Get lost sucker. I played this game for two years without ever using an exploit or glitch, did'nt buy the cheap schemata or used any other irregular moves for my gain. And there are many, many more who played within the rules and honestly. i may not have billions in cash, but surely billions in assets.
I'm strictly against a wipe and the main reason for this is trust. I will not pay a dime to a company which breaks all her promises.
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5 hours ago, Palad1n said:
Not everyone stays up to date on the forums, and like many, will be dormant for 3-6+ months at a time.
To be dormant more than 3 month after a full wipe before release means they will again loose everything unless NQ changes the mechanic.
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4 hours ago, Sabretooth said:
NQ's wipe is like: someone you love but everytime you ask him/her to start a relationship he/she says 'I dont know'. Asking every day for a month and still: I dont know...
Can we just date, can we just be friends on Facebook? I dont know...
So the thing imma trying to say is how lots of (ex)players are acting on this forum. Its almost pathetic to read and see.
Dont you guys get the message??? Make up your minds and continue with your lives!
No means no!!
I myself renewed my sub in January, 8 days later the pancake-wipe update was introduced and I instantly quit. I am a grown man over my 40s and I do not fool around. The deathmeter-wipe put me on the edge and the pancake-wipe pushed me over.
I wish all the ppl who play and who dont play lots of fun, but people please.... Be a sensible adult and quit being stubborn.
This !!
I stopped all my subscriptions a day after the initial post from NQ (Shedding some fog ....)
With every day passing by my distance from the game grows - to get me back in this game NQ would have to produce a miracle.- Doombad, merihimRefin, Zarcata and 4 others
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11 hours ago, Elitez said:
I honestly believe a full wipe will benefit almost everyone who is on stand-by, reading and not playing.
The sooner they announce a wipe, the sooner i can totally concentrate on another game with more trustworthy developers. In case they decide not to wipe my accounts are on standby since 2 weeks, only logged in today to check if one of the patch-bugs hit my accounts.
Automatic payment is off, tiles are paid for 3 month - let's see what happens.- Novidian, Doombad and merihimRefin
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38 minutes ago, PleiJades said:
Minecraft is fun. Has exploration and NPCs. And after a wipe I just restart again. When it comes to the wipe discussion I think minecraft is a bad example.
No, it's not. You could run your own server without wiping ever, There are servers running since 2010 until today that never had a reset. But this was not the argument here, the argument was creativity vs. destructivity. If you touch another players structure in freedonia without his permission, you get banned.
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9 hours ago, PleiJades said:
I basically do not understand most of the DU playerbase, which is also a reason I quit because they are very toxic when it comes to other gameplay loops other than "build nice things".
Well, have you ever wondered why people are playing Mindcraft? Some humans are more creative than destructive, that's all.
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2 minutes ago, Msoul said:
In all fairness there are a lot more safeguards now. For example we have officially rules on exploiting, a dedicated support category for reporting them, better logging capabilities, and most importantly a PTS server to catch problems early. So while it is still possible for another exploit to one day sneak into the live server, NQ is more prepared to deal with it. Furthermore now that the rules actually exist, players will generally be less inclined to abuse clearly broken mechanics.
Even at that time, where some of these exploits appeared, most of them were made public within the first days - i think nearly everybody would have understood, if the server was reset during the beta to a version prior to this. A backup from 3 days or even a week ago would have been totally fine.
But a complete wipe is, as i said before, a lazy move.
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43 minutes ago, Overstimuloredom said:
I don't care if some got rich illegitimately, because like 4 days into launch there were allready huge balancing issues and I made a conscious choice back then to focus on my progress and what I can do, and that I'm not going to put it in question everytime there is a new ooopsie.
Exact. It's the duty of the developer and the staff, to ban these exploiters and seize these illegitimate gains. A wipe to solve this is a lazy move.
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12 minutes ago, Sycopata said:
Not really, wen a player left a game, are not every day on forums, and normaly is focused in a new game.
May be - but there are many occasions, where a dissatisfied ex-player of DU can drop the message, even in other game forums - just like in this one here, where many posts mention EVE or other games.
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19 minutes ago, Sycopata said:
Is a niche game, they no renounce to beta players, people still in the game is in love of it, and after a few rand, they gona play in the wipe, and ALOT. Yes you can see alot people asking here they gona leave the game, but are not true in 99% of cases.
Well, i already canceled my subscriptions, and when a wipe happens i never return. It's a matter of trust. A company that does'nt keep their promises is not trustworthy - i'll spend my money elsewhere.
And by the way - a dissatisfied customer spreads the word far more than one who is satisfied - this whole thing will damage the reputation of NQ far more than they may think.
- Aleksandr, Vulpeculae, Doombad and 4 others
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36 minutes ago, LoveToDie said:
I've always said the way to go is have 2 servers. You want to keep all your money and skill points? Stay on the legacy server. Keep talking to the same people and have a stagnated economy.
Open up a brand new server for new players and make all these changes there. A place new players are all equal. You can roll a new account on there when you get bored on the legacy server. Its not fair to have 50M+ skill points and a $2B+ asset advantage over a new player.
They might as well go play Eve at that point...
JMHO
This fairness argument is so delusional and absurd. Let's say the server starts on 08/01/22, then every player joining this game one, two or 6 month later is entitled to call this an unfair game.
I would have absolutely nothing against a wipe if NQ hadn't made people pay money for the beta. For me and many others, the start of the beta was the release of the game.- Walter, Cabana, Vulpeculae and 2 others
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20 minutes ago, kulkija said:
After wipe there will be no "Market 6"
Supply will be where demand is.
When everyone starts at Sanctuary or Heaven, demand is there and so will supply be.
If big orgs suvive this wipe they will have the first tiles claimed on Alioth near a market (1-10) within the first day - and then everything will be quite like before the wipe.
This time it will even be faster than at the start of the beta, because the knowlege and experience is on the side of the older players.
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1 hour ago, Sycopata said:
You know there only supplies on Alioth market 6? You really expect a new player travel from sactuarium to Alioth 6 and buy a container S? We are so disconected from the new player experience, please make a new accound and try yourselve.
Well, i did it in my beginnings very often:
Fly to Mx/District on Sanct, take shuttle to alioth, buy stuff, take shuttle back. No problem -
5 minutes ago, Sycopata said:
New player experience, gater rocks, fill your invenrary, wait 20 minutes to craft one XS container, repeat this until you figure XS container are so small, craft S assembler to build a S container, grats youn discovered you need 300.000 quanta buy a S container schematic, you can now travel to alioth market 6 or try to gater 12000 liter rocks to sell its to bots. And travel from your hex in Sactuariun 6 times to a market why you cant hold 12000 liters of ore in your inventory. For sure schemattics have to go away from tier 1 items minimum
Well, there are many Orgs out there willing to help newbies, mine included. Read about the second M in MMO, this is'nt a solo game.
Just to specify:
I'm calibrating MUs on 20 tiles on Alioth, but most of the surface ore still lays around - a newbie in our Org can pick up several millions worth of ore within some days.
He can use org factories, org ships, get's help for flying and any other problems may be solved within the org.
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2 hours ago, blazemonger said:
I really see no argument against that wipe happening at all.
That's your opinion, mine is: there is no valid argument for a wipe, not even a partial, because a wipe does not solve a single problem with the game in the current state, including the next Athena patch.
- CptLoRes, Aleksandr and CptCabalsky
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1 hour ago, Niemand said:
can we just permabann these "i payed for no wipe" ppl? i mean they are so dumb it hurts reading their shit.
why not permaban those insulting and trolling kiddies supporting a wipe? Seems like you have'nt yet learned how discussions work in your preschool.
- CptLoRes, Vulpeculae, merihimRefin and 2 others
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10 minutes ago, J0hnnyB said:
I just gave you a mathematical equation to why wipe is a must
That is just an opinion, not a mathematical equation based on any facts, just on your personal feelings
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25 minutes ago, Niemand said:
a "persistent" game that has not been released yet you dumb pos. doesnt matter what a dev said 2 or 3 years ago, you are the idiot for building your entire existence on a few words in this alpha/beta stage game
ah, you're getting personal and insulting - not a very adult behaviour, kiddy.
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38 minutes ago, blazemonger said:
Except no one is doing that, whether they wipe or not
If they decide to do a full wipe they brake what they promised - i never would have invested hundreds of euros und hundreds of hours in a so called "persistent" game, that may be wiped. It's a not funny definition of "persistent".
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57 minutes ago, Moonagi said:
.... If you love the game you will continue to play.
I like this game, but i don't like companies that betray their customers.
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If a wipe, even a partial one without solving real technical problems is implemented with the release, i'm done with this game.
Broken promises means broken trust. I would'nt invest more time and effort in an untrustworthy game company.
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2 hours ago, Neuritico said:
.... as it has always happened for every game....
May be, but i'm playing MMOs for over 20 years now and i don't remember a single one, where players payed a subscription fee during a beta. Most other games have beta testing phases for some weeks to fix bugs, the servers are on and off, not running constantly.
That's the one big difference. If there has'nt been the message "we don't want to do a wipe, except there is no other way to solve massive technical issues" i never would have startet this game or invested so much time and effort.
- Novidian, Captain Hills and CptLoRes
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NEW SCHEMATICS - Discussion Thread
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I doubt this, because i think it's a normal misconception. From my experience, pvpers are simply the loudmouthest forum/social media warriors in every game that offers pvp and pve together.