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Exactly... we have reached a point where NQ's word is pointless and without value... trust has been broken countless times. NQ's behavior is worse than giving a child a hammer and a bag full of cans of spray paint and letting them loose in a museum.

1. Will territory tiles on Sanctuary hold the same amount as other planets? 2. Since we can't move Sanctuary Units will every tile on Sanct have the exact same amount of ore? 2. Will L miners work on Sanctuary tiles or only the tiny ones?

A lot like how Project Entropia was circa 2007, before it became Entropia Universe and they ripped the soul of it out with CryEngine and loot boxes etc.

Let's be honest Warlander, as well thought as your post is, there is no viable Demeter update going to happen. Same as the people in government won't ever fix climate change, in both instances we the people are simply screwed, just like this game. It is my favorite game, I love this game, and it is why I am so super passionately upset. I did make a major mistake though, I loved it for what I thought it could be, accepted it at the time for what it was, not for the reality of what it will become at this point.

Questions I have that I know NQ will probably either BS us on, or can't answer cause they never really thought about it. 1. Since we can't change our Sanctuary TU, will all tiles have the same amount of hourly ore availability? 2. Since it is the first and only non-taxable tile guaranteed, will it have the same output as an Alioth tile, to help new players get started? 3. Will Sanctuary tiles only allow mini-miners or the full L miners, since you have told the builders to all go piss-off to sanctuary? (since you are screwing players spec'ed for building (honeycomb industry) by only doing mining skill reset.) 4. Have you started looking for other jobs in case Dementor goes terribly wrong because you are ignoring feedback, and you believe the game can't fail no matter how many players you make angry? P.S. Nicodermus, Rubicon, and Cassini from Support team, super appreciate all the help you guys give in game, and I hope the "decision makers at NQ" doesn't screw up things for you guys. ❤️

Based on those ears in your profile pick looks like you are a hardcore NQ-Pann fan... so there is no need to debate further with you, nothing productive could come of it. You assume a lot about me based on little info. Enjoy.

Well... I acted according when they called it an alpha... and then I played the game as a beta as they stated it was... of course they are still treating it like an alpha.

I love you Hagbard, thank you for saying this more calmly than I can at the moment. I am so upset, I try not to be, I try to joke it off. but this is coming at a time where my entire RL is pretty much upside down in it's stability, so my only stress relief is now mirror the same chaos, loss, etc. Great post mate, great post.

Oh shit, no worries then... we are good, and yes agreed. I have many issues I take with Pann's communication and while I have nothing against her as a person as I don't know her... her commentary is quiet inflammatory to me as someone heavily impacted by these changes.

I feel this is where we NQ is headed... "Doing Nothing"... based on their subtractive approach to fixing problems in DU. Honestly lately I feel less and less like playing DU in the past couple of weeks since I demolished my resort due to upcoming tax changes... I had something I loved, and cared about in this game... and that being gone on top of the new way things are going to roll out... I just am losing the ambition, desire to build. Plus all this talk of wipe, why bother protecting what might already be lost at release anyways. People argue don't be mad until they finally decide how it will play out... but I can only react to the information we have, and I refuse to march single file into the furnace of hell with these changes and do it quietly... If NQ is going to burn what people love with dramatic changes, then they can wake up to the smell of wrath every morning. Btw... the fact NQ is calling this game a BETA when developing it like an ALPHA is sickening and dishonest imho. This is why people get mad about potentially losing months or even years of work, on project they though they were building to help build the community, that they thought would give people more to look at then the randomly generated landscape of BS of these dull planets. Until then... NQ wants you to play DU and DU Nothing... while you are logged in. (Btw I hate HP's new commercial, she looks miserable.) Btw Pann this is what you asked for right in the vlog, if we are angry... to get vocal vs get angry and leave...

I like your post here, and if you are going to quote a line then include the whole thing not just a section and tell me I worded it poorly in the opener. We essentially said the same thing I just didn't get as detailed.

When NQ removes the safezone around Alioth, Thades and Madis... or simply makes the safezone Alioth and Sanct only. Why? Because if the player numbers drop enough they will continue to herd us into smaller and smaller corners of the game itself to make it appear less dead than it really is. They will say that it was never intended that anything outside of Sanctuary was ever meant to be safe permanently. They will also say that for those that want to build and do it safely, they need to be on sanctuary... ( something they are already saying). They will also probably find a way to justify removing full planets from the system... claiming they don't have the resources to really finish them (which they probably don't), and that the ore they offer is redundant... and (like asteroid spawn timer) they want to create more activity around a smaller area of gameplay space to create more pvp and activity. See where this is going? I think we all do... so don't be surprised... the only question is will the game die before or after we see this happen.

Sadly I am out of likes for the day Warlander... so I am now forced to reply... just to let you know how much I +1 your post! Also JC is busy picking his nose... since the thread OP was asking... Also: I super appreciate the support team... Rubicon and Nicodermus... those guys get it... good people, very helpful, probably cause they see the impact every day. I wish the development team though weren't as disconnected, and oblivious as they are.

Gotta agree Jake...

You sir, are 100% on point! Willy Nilly changes, and switch flipping, and BS off the cuff bandaids that won't be available before many players bleed out.

1. The reason players want full skill reset is that mining only reset doesn't give everyone an equal playing field, and you have grossly changed the primary way to earn quanta. 2. NQ-PANN says if you have fully optimized your resource pool you will profit over tax. Issue #1 means a builder is less capable of doing that, 3. The economic impact of Dementor means people aren't largely buying designs like they were even at a 75% discount, cause we are all mining and hoarding quanta. - This update is highly advantageous for those already skilled for activities that previously net them a lot of profit to begin with. - Meanwhile it heavily punishes players creating content that invested their points into making honeycomb and building materials they needed to build. - Additionally, if you were a builder that was trying to work on large player made locations, you are also being shafted. What I made in quanta as a builder over 3-4 months, miners could LITERALLY make in 3-4 hours if spec'ed into those skills. Now you are taking my land, crippling my ability to earn in a new economy, and punishing me essentially for dedicating my time to making "player created content". Something I did cause I wanted to draw more people into this game... @NQ-Pann your statement that "people don't like change" is heavily contextual. We as players would LOVE more ways to earn quanta, more reasons to interact as players, new content etc. What players don't enjoy is fundamentally de-stabilizing changes that threaten to wipe away a couple years of work, because we didn't play according to NQ's new vision of the game. If you can't avoid chicken and egg mistakes with the autominers & DSAT, how can you ever hope to realize the devastation you are unleashing on the player base by combining taxes at a time you are fundamentally overhauling the entire economy.

So how long exactly is this final stretch until Launch release?

Also included in the Dementor update seems to be that Support is no longer support, Forums are now support... is this a bug or a feature NQ? ?

Auto-Mining: Before I get into my major concerns I would like to say thank you for replacing the current system of mining underground with something better than "click, watch circle get big, release." I think the system holds a lot of potential if balanced right, will be more rewarding than the current mining system, and I am glad that it can help NQ unburden some overhead cost, especially as the player base must be much smaller than NQ's business model accounted for. My only concern with mining-units is the "chicken or egg" dynamic of need to have same tier ore to build the mining unit. Where I feel it would be more sensible to require T2 ore for a T3 unit, T3 ore for a T4 unit, etc. Otherwise NQ risks progression locking players with a mechanic that subjects them to predatory exploitation of players who have gotten to T4 and T5 already. If players are willing to exploit mechanics to gain billions in quanta they will not hesitate to exploit players to stratify the economy and widen the gap between a few with everything and the mass majority with the left overs. Territory Tax: NQ claims that a player driven economy and player made content is the backbone of the game. Yet builders who are working hundreds if not thousands of hours over the past two years risk losing the most with projects that are focused on building unique locations for others to visit. Building and selling blueprints is simply not competitive with the earnings made through current mining, and with changes to the economy sales of ship and building designs has gone off the cliff as everyone hoards currency and materials to survive upcoming changes. I also feel that a clear and final tile tax rates MUST be announced 30-60 days before Demeter release to give adequate time for organization of assets to prevent huge and punishing loses to the creative community within Dual Universe. People simply need to know what they will and won't lose and what to do to safeguard their hard work, NQ's ambiguity simply drives ambiguity, and snarky responses from support team when players want to know if they can reasonably expect to earn enough from auto-mining to cover taxes for the number of tiles they own is simply inflammatory. In-Game Abuse Reports: I am hoping bans won't become automated, and will also have a review system that takes context of the situation into account. It is well known we have members of the community who bait, troll, and instigate to produce reactions that they can then report to weaponize the NQ support staff against players. Some of these people are the same individuals who have exploited, and abused mechanics to gain advantage over the players they taunt and bait with their comments. Also feel rule #10 of the Code of Conduct should be removed from the CoC, as the demographic of the player base on average is well above 30 years of age, and there are things that 8 year old's say these days that make me blush. It is no secret that colorful language is often present in passionate expression ideals, dissatisfaction etc. The rule is ambiguous as to how much profanity is excessive, and it is well known players purposefully instigate and antagonize others into the point of frustration where profanity is used and then weaponize abuse reports against them. It is a highly dishonorable tactic that needs addressing. My use of a four letter word, or expression of frustration is by no means as harmful to the community as the exploits, use of alt accounts, etc. for players to manipulate the economy, and gain huge material advantage over those they taunt and troll. This while seeming off topic I believe will become highly relevant with in game abuse reports coming in Demeter. Voxelmancy Tools: Last but not least I want to thank you for working to provide tools to make building more accessible to everyone, I think this is awesome. My only concern here is will this cause more "invalid cell error" issues in the future? Closing Summary: Thank you very much for the work being put into DU, I know I am critical of some of the decisions. Mainly I just have a huge fear of losing hundreds if not thousands of hours of work. Dual Universe is the one place I feel I have my little slice of peace to escape from RL stress. I don't need to be rich, or have the best guns, or even biggest ship... I treat my tile territories as a carefully maintained zen garden, and right now I see fire burning all around that garden threatening to take it away. To take away the very little peace I have some days. I work with victims of violent crime, sexual assault and domestic abuse with my job as a government contractor, trying to help them rebuild after horrible events. It is a job that is emotionally taxing, and Dual Universe is how I cope with the stresses of that job, and the risks of harm and even death from violent people who would do me harm to get to the survivors they have victimized. Respectfully, Creator

Anyone friends with or know the org he is in so I can reach him? I found his discord, no replies there, no offline messaging in game, and his tile is completely blank of constructs. - Found him on discord no responses for about a week. - His tile is blank with no constructs. Respectfully, Creator

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